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« on: July 31, 2017, 01:19:27 PM »
All this news coming out of NK has me nervous. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 01:21:20 PM »
War with N Korea =/= WW3.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2017, 01:22:35 PM »

It would be bad - very bad - but not WW3
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2017, 01:23:41 PM »
No (normal)
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2017, 01:50:57 PM »

With Trump, it could happen.
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Mike Thick
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2017, 01:56:28 PM »
If WWIII does start, it starts in Syria.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 02:01:40 PM »
No.

North Korea is China's problem; they can disable the government there in less than 24 hours. Any sabre rattling has the potential to lead to international support for a Chinese led solution before the US.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2017, 02:04:23 PM »
If it did...it would be very ironic for Russia. What would be the post-game for such an endeavor provided it's not Fallout or Life After People.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 02:23:38 PM »
The poll question is confusing.
War with North Korea isn't really WWIII, even if they (and us) used one or two nukes.
If China were to intervene on NK's side, then we have a different story.
So I don't know how to answer the poll (no answer selected for me).
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2017, 02:29:10 PM »
War with NK could easily escalate into war with China, as some of their bases are very close to the Chinese border and China could intervene to prevent US troops from hugging the Yalu river.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2017, 02:30:24 PM »
No. I think WW3 is never going to happen actually. At least not in this century.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2017, 02:33:30 PM »
Quote from: President Johnson on July 31, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
No. I think WW3 is never going to happen actually. At least not in this century.
I agree with this broadly - though its folly to speak in certainties.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2017, 02:37:25 PM »
Only by accident. Trump is such a buffoon, he couldn't pour beer out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2017, 02:43:15 PM »
What news? None of the recent developments seem newsworthy at this point.  North Korea tests missile, United States yells and nothing happens. With Trump in the white house I can see sanctions being placed on China but that wont start a war.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2017, 02:57:45 PM »
No. As King and Reactionary have already said, war with North Korea would be tremendously bad, but it wouldn't be doomsday. Remember, Kim Jong-Un is a spoiled little playground bully with no friends.
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2017, 04:08:28 PM »
you could argue that the current situation in the Middle East  - drawing in Turkey, Russia, the USA, the EU... already is WW3.

In any case, NK won't lead to a global scale war, any war that does happen will be fought using proxies - like every war since WW2 has.
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2017, 04:16:48 PM »
Quote from: Saguaro on July 31, 2017, 02:57:45 PM
No. As King and Reactionary have already said, war with North Korea would be tremendously bad, but it wouldn't be doomsday. Remember, Kim Jong-Un is a spoiled little playground bully with no friends.

Russia and China de facto back Kim.

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A war with nuclear missile-armed North Korea would be unlike any war since WW2... even Mattis has said so.
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2017, 04:38:40 PM »
Here is a short primer on how it would play out https://qz.com/950488/nasty-brutish-and-short-what-the-next-korean-war-will-look-like/

Just the opening months, not counting an extended timeline if we have to put boots and face an insurgency.

The opening hours would see ~30,000 dead in Seoul. Most likely it would be more due to it being a city of 10 million people.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2017, 04:56:29 PM »
Quote from: VirginiaModerate on July 31, 2017, 04:38:40 PM
Here is a short primer on how it would play out https://qz.com/950488/nasty-brutish-and-short-what-the-next-korean-war-will-look-like/

Just the opening months, not counting an extended timeline if we have to put boots and face an insurgency.

The opening hours would see ~30,000 dead in Seoul. Most likely it would be more due to it being a city of 10 million people.

Their artillery doesn't have the range to saturate Seoul proper, so most of the casualties would occur in the northern suburbs, which is probably the reason their estimate is so low. How awful this would be probably depends on how much the US knows about the specific locations of the batteries, and how quickly they can take them out in a combat situation (as well as whether North Korea is acting willing to use WMD).
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2017, 05:10:28 PM »
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A war with nuclear missile-armed North Korea would be unlike any war since WW2... even Mattis has said so.

Maybe, but it's still going to be a war between proxies, not an all out global war.

Even the bad haired one knows that going to war with the US would be suicide, and China is too economically interlinked  to the US to out and out support NK.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2017, 05:16:48 PM »
Nothing is going to happen.
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2017, 05:18:23 PM »
A war with North Korea would not be WWIII unless China and/or Russia intervened on their behalf with the full force of their nuclear stockpile. Not going to happen, even if we do somehow get involved in the DPRK.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2017, 05:19:15 PM »
Quote from: parochial boy on July 31, 2017, 04:08:28 PM
you could argue that the current situation in the Middle East  - drawing in Turkey, Russia, the USA, the EU... already is WW3.

Hardly. WW1 killed 10 million people in four years and WW2 killed 60 million in six years. What's happening in Syria, though bloody, is nowhere on that scale.
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2017, 05:29:16 PM »
Any World War would leave out one of Russia, America, or China. Honestly, I think Putin would prefer us to China, considering his past comments about communism and China.
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2017, 05:41:13 PM »
IMHO, it seems like this may happen.  Pray for peace (if you're religious).  :-/
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