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darklordoftech
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« on: August 01, 2017, 10:41:17 PM »

and later becomes a citizen again, are they eligible for President or does someone who renounces their citizenship permanently loose their natural-born status?
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 11:03:54 AM »

They can be President after fourteen years of citizenship
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 11:50:40 AM »

They can be President after fourteen years of citizenship
If they stay in the U.S. under your interpretation. With dual citizenship an accepted thing these days, you won't have people inadvertently renouncing citizenship by marrying a non-citizen or the like. It's hard to imagine someone these days deliberately renouncing citizenship and then later going through the immigration process so as to get it back. It's even harder to imagine such a person successfully getting elected.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2017, 02:18:16 PM »

They can be President after fourteen years of citizenship
If they stay in the U.S. under your interpretation. With dual citizenship an accepted thing these days, you won't have people inadvertently renouncing citizenship by marrying a non-citizen or the like. It's hard to imagine someone these days deliberately renouncing citizenship and then later going through the immigration process so as to get it back. It's even harder to imagine such a person successfully getting elected.

I don't think it's that implausible. A child of, say, British parents is born in the US, then they move back to Britain, and the child grows up in Britain (maybe an even better example would be a developed country with low taxes, like Hong Kong). For tax reasons, on the child's 18th birthday, they renounce US citizenship, largely at the parents' decision. The person, after completing higher-level schooling at age 25, gets a job in the US and immigrates to the US. Around age 35, the person is re-naturalized as a US citizen and becomes involved in local politics. Local politics leads to state politics lead to national politics, and the person is elected to the House at age 50, then Governor of their state at age 58, and finally runs for President at age 64.

All seems plausible to me.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2017, 08:17:22 PM »

They can be President after fourteen years of citizenship
If they stay in the U.S. under your interpretation. With dual citizenship an accepted thing these days, you won't have people inadvertently renouncing citizenship by marrying a non-citizen or the like. It's hard to imagine someone these days deliberately renouncing citizenship and then later going through the immigration process so as to get it back. It's even harder to imagine such a person successfully getting elected.

I don't think it's that implausible. A child of, say, British parents is born in the US, then they move back to Britain, and the child grows up in Britain (maybe an even better example would be a developed country with low taxes, like Hong Kong). For tax reasons, on the child's 18th birthday, they renounce US citizenship, largely at the parents' decision. The person, after completing higher-level schooling at age 25, gets a job in the US and immigrates to the US. Around age 35, the person is re-naturalized as a US citizen and becomes involved in local politics. Local politics leads to state politics lead to national politics, and the person is elected to the House at age 50, then Governor of their state at age 58, and finally runs for President at age 64.

All seems plausible to me.
It's hard to imagine a jobless 18 year-old needing to renounce U.S. citizenship for tax reasons unless an awful lot of assets have been placed in their name. I can't imagine a spoiled rich kid who renounced his citizenship doing well in national politics here.
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