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« on: August 03, 2017, 08:46:20 AM »
« edited: August 03, 2017, 08:49:46 AM by heatcharger »

Democratic internal.

Democratic opponent 47%
Flake 31%

Flake approval: 18/62
Trump approval: 44/53

It's pretty clear Flake has pissed off both the GOP base and Democrats, but PPP needs to stop with Generic Democrats and start polling real candidates like Sinema and Stanton.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2017, 08:49:55 AM »

Generic Democrat 2020!
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2017, 08:52:42 AM »

I still don't understand why so many people think Flake will hang on while Heller won't. I think Heller is much more likely to win reelection than Flake (but I think they'll both lose in the end).
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 08:54:31 AM »

I still don't understand why so many people think Flake will hang on while Heller won't. I think Heller is much more likely to win reelection than Flake (but I think they'll both lose in the end).
Arizona is still more Republican than Nevada. Flake is in more of a solid position. The only way Flake goes down is if it's a huge Democrat wave.

But I do have to say, those approvals concern me.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2017, 08:55:01 AM »

Ward will probably be the GOP nominee anyways.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 08:56:00 AM »

I still don't understand why so many people think Flake will hang on while Heller won't. I think Heller is much more likely to win reelection than Flake (but I think they'll both lose in the end).

Well Flake might not even survive a primary. According to this poll, Flake has a higher disapproval from Trump voters than Clinton voters, and considering how radioactive Ward would be, I think this seat is more up for grabs than I thought it was.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2017, 09:08:11 AM »

I still don't understand why so many people think Flake will hang on while Heller won't. I think Heller is much more likely to win reelection than Flake (but I think they'll both lose in the end).

Well Flake might not even survive a primary. According to this poll, Flake has a higher disapproval from Trump voters than Clinton voters, and considering how radioactive Ward would be, I think this seat is more up for grabs than I thought it was.

If Flake continues to look very vulnerable, we might see some slightly more palatable Trump loyalist jump in to the primary too, but I'm not sure who.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2017, 09:11:10 AM »

I still don't understand why so many people think Flake will hang on while Heller won't. I think Heller is much more likely to win reelection than Flake (but I think they'll both lose in the end).

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Barely. Trump only lost Nevada by 2 points, and won Arizona by 3. It's possible Arizona's greater Republican lean could save Flake will tanking Heller, but if a 5-point difference is to be given that much weight, then Tester, Heitkamp, Brown, Donnelly, Manchin, are all surely doomed with zero chance whatsoever, and I still see people saying some of them could, or even will, win.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2017, 09:11:52 AM »

It looks like everyone is getting Blanched.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 09:17:18 AM »

Also, after the pollster asks some questions (push poll-esque), it changes to

Flake - 30%
Generic D - 49%

The Curse of the D+19 strikes again.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 09:47:11 AM »

I would say with Ward it's like 47R-43D.

Heller will lose by 3-4 points
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 09:59:00 AM »

I would say with Ward it's like 47R-43D.

Heller will lose by 3-4 points

A. Not even close with Ward.
B. This is not Nevada, so don't talk about Heller here.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 10:01:19 AM »

Who is the strongest Democratic candidate in Arizona?
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 10:09:00 AM »

I would say with Ward it's like 47R-43D.

Heller will lose by 3-4 points

A. Not even close with Ward.
B. This is not Nevada, so don't talk about Heller here.

Kristen Cinema would obviously cone close but Flake or Ward can still win
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2017, 10:15:48 AM »


Why 2020? Isn't Flake up for 2018?
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 10:16:15 AM »


For president.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 10:28:46 AM »
« Edited: August 03, 2017, 10:33:09 AM by Holmes »

Who is the strongest Democratic candidate in Arizona?

Stanton, Sinema, Gallego, Kelly
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 10:44:03 AM »

Who is the strongest Democratic candidate in Arizona?

Stanton's easily the strongest potential Democratic candidate.
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2017, 10:51:08 AM »


I see.

What happens if McCain resigns or dies, will there be two senatorial elections on Election Day?
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2017, 10:56:04 AM »

Great poll!
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 10:58:18 AM »


I see.

What happens if McCain resigns or dies, will there be two senatorial elections on Election Day?

I believe they'd both be on election day 18
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 11:24:23 AM »

What happens if McCain resigns or dies, will there be two senatorial elections on Election Day?

I believe they'd both be on election day 18

Great. Then both Kirkpatrick and Stanton can run for Senate.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 11:38:32 AM »

Flake always seemed like a really weak candidate to me. He performed really poorly considering that Romney was on the ticket. Romney did a whole 6 points better than him. If AZ's demographics have changed enough to give Trump only a 3 point win there, Flake could be in serious danger. Add on the fact that 2018 will lean Democratic in the overall vote, and I think AZ is a tossup.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 11:50:49 AM »

Great poll! Generic Democrat will crush Flake in ArizonaNew Colorado!!

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I expect Flake to struggle in early polls, since he's so unpopular, but his numbers will probably improve after the primary, once Republicans get behind him (assuming he wins the primary, of course)
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 11:52:32 AM »

LOL, JUNK POLL
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