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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2017, 02:30:26 PM »
« edited: August 08, 2017, 02:32:31 PM by Jacobin American »

I think equal pay is an issue that needs to be confronted, however I've always felt that controlling wealth inequality is pointless. It penalizes those who have become successful. Single payer systems don't usually work well, look at the NHS in the UK. A toddler is now dead because of it, and there are probably thousands more that didn't make waves to the US. Do I think we should have public healthcare for those who are below the poverty line? Absolutely. Do I think we should force everyone onto a government program? No.

So not being a socialist is absurd and ignorant. Good to know.

Absolutely!

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« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2017, 03:42:25 PM »

I think equal pay is an issue that needs to be confronted, however I've always felt that controlling wealth inequality is pointless. It penalizes those who have become successful. Single payer systems don't usually work well, look at the NHS in the UK. A toddler is now dead because of it, and there are probably thousands more that didn't make waves to the US. Do I think we should have public healthcare for those who are below the poverty line? Absolutely. Do I think we should force everyone onto a government program? No.

So not being a socialist is absurd and ignorant. Good to know.

Absolutely!

That being said, the assertion that Charlie Gard's death is attributable to single-payer healthcare and that MDSS would've somehow been curable had he been born in the US is even dumber than the various right-wing talking points about "penalizing the successful Sad" included in that cancerous post.

I dont think the OP was trying to argue that the only reason this rare disease existed was the UK's bad healthcare system, merely that in the less evil system we have over here, the kid's odds of living jump from 0% to 1%. 1% isn't great, but its much better than the literal death sentence handed out by the evil death panels behind NHS rationing. Just look at how NHS is rationing joint surgery if you are a smoker or are fat. Now that's evil.
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« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2017, 07:56:10 PM »

Durbin, Stabenow, Murray, Baldwin, Bennet, Tester, Van Hollen, and Warner would all be better than Schumer.


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« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2017, 07:57:26 PM »

I think equal pay is an issue that needs to be confronted, however I've always felt that controlling wealth inequality is pointless. It penalizes those who have become successful. Single payer systems don't usually work well, look at the NHS in the UK. A toddler is now dead because of it, and there are probably thousands more that didn't make waves to the US. Do I think we should have public healthcare for those who are below the poverty line? Absolutely. Do I think we should force everyone onto a government program? No.

So not being a socialist is absurd and ignorant. Good to know.
He knows that's false, he just didn't want to debate me (scroll down here) and would prefer to call me absurd and ignorant, rather than use facts and logic. Believe me, I've dealt with him and others like him before. Wink
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« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2017, 08:46:44 PM »

Durbin, Stabenow, Murray, Baldwin, Bennet, Tester, Van Hollen, and Warner would all be better than Schumer.



I forgot that you like Schumer's support for Israel and political corruption.
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« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2017, 08:50:55 PM »

So what happens if North Korea attacks Guam with ballistic missiles? And the ideology of communism will not flourish much longer on the face of the planet. Trump is doing exactly what he needs to do IMO by issuing a warning and it means he's serious about it.

enjoy getting drafted little boy

Let's hope he's the first one to go given he's so enthusiastic about it.

I have been saying it and I would be proud to serve my country to defend it at all costs.

Then go ahead and sign up...what are you waiting for cuck?
Not everyone at Atlas loves America enough to put politics aside.

I'm not a big flag-waver, but I'm an American and I pray that our President (whether you like the fact or not) will succeed in his objectives for America in this matter.

This is exactly right. It's a fight to retain our freedoms and democracy. I'll be sure to wait for you to defend us while you cower in fear. And I'd also ask if everyone on this forum could exercise a degree of political tolerance for others' political beliefs. This isn't about our leanings, it's about the safety and security of our nation among others. If you won't protect it, you are inherently un-American.
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« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2017, 09:33:45 PM »

So what happens if North Korea attacks Guam with ballistic missiles? And the ideology of communism will not flourish much longer on the face of the planet. Trump is doing exactly what he needs to do IMO by issuing a warning and it means he's serious about it.

enjoy getting drafted little boy

Let's hope he's the first one to go given he's so enthusiastic about it.

I have been saying it and I would be proud to serve my country to defend it at all costs.

Then go ahead and sign up...what are you waiting for cuck?
Not everyone at Atlas loves America enough to put politics aside.

I'm not a big flag-waver, but I'm an American and I pray that our President (whether you like the fact or not) will succeed in his objectives for America in this matter.

This is exactly right. It's a fight to retain our freedoms and democracy. I'll be sure to wait for you to defend us while you cower in fear. And I'd also ask if everyone on this forum could exercise a degree of political tolerance for others' political beliefs. This isn't about our leanings, it's about the safety and security of our nation among others. If you won't protect it, you are inherently un-American.

"If you don't agree with my perception of this situation, you aren't a real American"

Sounds about right

There are people on this forum who know who they are that would root for another nation against America in a conflict; even an existential conflict.  That they have been nurtured and suckled on the breast of American public education, and sheltered from the threats much of the world's people endure daily by America's law enforcement and military apparatus, all while enjoying personal freedoms that much of the world does not enjoy, is something they are blind to.  They have received so much from America, and yet will not even defend it verbally, let alone with their lives.  

And why?  Because America isn't perfect?  Because there was once slavery and Jim Crow?  Because they have to endure Evangelical Christians in their midst?  Because they have issues when they use public restrooms that the government won't accommodate them on?  Because they don't like Trump?   Because their real loyalty is to their own ethnic group, religious sect, or political movement, and those tribal and parochial loyalties are never transcended by duty to, and love for country?  

The Un-American spirit is the spirit of a person that will not be down with his/her country when there is an existential threat to the point of wishing success on the efforts of leaders they don't like and may not agree with.  I didn't like Bush 43 and didn't like the Iraq War, but I never rooted for our troops to fail.  That many weren't as good to Obama as that doesn't make it "American" to return the favor to Trump.  There are lots of folks here that vote, that take the benefits of America, but hate the Republic for which the flag stands (or, at best, feel indifferent to it).  I won't call you out, but you give yourselves away with your rhetoric.  I hope that maturity fixes that problem someday for a number of you.
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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2017, 08:03:24 AM »
« Edited: August 10, 2017, 08:05:32 AM by Compassion Fills the Void »

I'm thinking Kamala Harris as he can make the argument that his VP is from the most populous state and the most populous democratic state in the country. Otherwise possibly Roy Cooper. He's a popular governor from a swing state that generally leans republican that could be flipped with Roy Cooper on the ticket. I think Cooper will be on everyone's short list for the democratic ticket in 2020

What an argument it's important to make!

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Delaney: Well my running mate is from the most populous state and the most populous democratic state in the country.
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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2017, 11:35:09 AM »

Rumors but it could very well be true. Most British hate Charles.
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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2017, 01:14:32 PM »

I think equal pay is an issue that needs to be confronted, however I've always felt that controlling wealth inequality is pointless. It penalizes those who have become successful. Single payer systems don't usually work well, look at the NHS in the UK. A toddler is now dead because of it, and there are probably thousands more that didn't make waves to the US. Do I think we should have public healthcare for those who are below the poverty line? Absolutely. Do I think we should force everyone onto a government program? No.

So not being a socialist is absurd and ignorant. Good to know.

Absolutely!

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« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2017, 06:41:48 PM »

No, Maduro is fighting a right wing coup just like the one that happened in Brazil.
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« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2017, 08:32:54 PM »

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"
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« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2017, 02:33:24 AM »

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"

Just because you don't understand what two entirely unrelated points have to do with the conclusion doesn't make my argument dumb - you might not just be clever enough to understand it.
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« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2017, 04:20:16 AM »

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"

Just because you don't understand what two entirely unrelated points have to do with the conclusion doesn't make my argument dumb - you might not just be clever enough to understand it.

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« Reply #64 on: August 11, 2017, 04:37:46 AM »

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"

Just because you don't understand what two entirely unrelated points have to do with the conclusion doesn't make my argument dumb - you might not just be clever enough to understand it.


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« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2017, 04:53:52 AM »

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"

Just because you don't understand what two entirely unrelated points have to do with the conclusion doesn't make my argument dumb - you might not just be clever enough to understand it.

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« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2017, 07:18:56 AM »

Kingpoleon's posts are bad in subtle, artful ways. Look in awe as he uses two separate bad arguments to make an unclear point.

Just a reminder that Roosevelt could easily have ordered the death of all Japanese-Americans, and over fifty percent of the country supported wiping out everyone of Japanese blood.

At least Reagan's reaction to such a threat wasn't: "Jail all the gays!!!"

Just because you don't understand what two entirely unrelated points have to do with the conclusion doesn't make my argument dumb - you might not just be clever enough to understand it.

Macron is becoming such an egomaniac it's amazing. 
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« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2017, 08:12:46 AM »

I actually support Macron's egoistic/anti-journalistic stance. Probably not in his case, but if you were to ask a respectably intelligent person how they view the world, it would likely take more explaining than is allowed in contemporary mass media.
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« Reply #68 on: August 11, 2017, 09:55:55 AM »

I think any Dem leadership team needs at least:
- a woman
- a (preferably rural or Rust Belt) Midwesterner
- an African-American

Cheri Bustos, for example, fulfills two roles.

That kind of racist identity politics is going to make Congress red for a long time, incarcerating more blacks, suppressing their votes & will pose more abortion restrictions on women, etc. The last thing people want is for the white vote to be as anywhere near polarized as the South !

"The WWC is afraid of blacks and women so the Democrats need to ignore them completely"
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« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2017, 11:53:05 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2017, 11:54:41 AM by heatcharger »

Context:

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« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2017, 12:01:05 PM »

Roll Eyes

Obama blamed Bush for stuff, and Trump blames Obama for stuff

Don't see what's so ignorant and absurd about that
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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2017, 01:59:41 PM »

Roll Eyes

Obama blamed Bush for stuff, and Trump blames Obama for stuff

Don't see what's so ignorant and absurd about that

No. You tried pulling some lame "both sides do it" nonsense when it's very clear Trump does more than just blame Obama, he actively tries to destroy everything he did, and based on multiple reports, he will make decisions just to be contrary to what Obama would've done/did.

Regardless I don't even f**king care about that right now because your cool, trendy right-wing populists are currently driving over people in my city.
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« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2017, 02:53:17 PM »

How is this Trump's fault? Neo-Nazi's have been around for centuries.
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« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2017, 02:55:52 PM »


Was he talking about these guys?

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« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2017, 03:54:20 PM »

Roll Eyes

Obama blamed Bush for stuff, and Trump blames Obama for stuff

Don't see what's so ignorant and absurd about that

No. You tried pulling some lame "both sides do it" nonsense when it's very clear Trump does more than just blame Obama, he actively tries to destroy everything he did, and based on multiple reports, he will make decisions just to be contrary to what Obama would've done/did.

Regardless I don't even f**king care about that right now because your cool, trendy right-wing populists are currently driving over people in my city.
It's funny because I hate fascists, Neo-Nazis, and white supremacists. So never EVER call them "mine"
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