TR wins in 1912

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

If Teddy Roosevelt defeated Wilson and Taft in 1912, how would the course of the 20th Century history gone differently?

1. Would TR have gotten us into WWI sooner than Wilson?  In his first term, even?

2. How would WWI have turned out differently?

3. Would there be any effort to form an international body like the League of Nations?

4. Would Germany have been crippled and humiliated after WWI, and would the conditions have been present for the rise of National Socialism?

5. Would the Progressive Party have become a major party in the US?  Would we have a 3-party system or would the Progressives have ousted the Republicans?  Or the Democrats?

6. Assuming the depression still occurred, how would it have been handled in this timeline?

7. Assuming there is no Nazi movement in Germany, is there still war with Japan in the Pacific?  Any check at all on Japanese expansion into Asia?  Do Fascist regimes flourish in Italy, Spain, and Greece?  Instead of one big world war, are there a bunch of regional conflicts where Fascist expansion is resisted?

8. With no WWII and the Progressive Party in the mix, what are the implications for the civil rights movement?

I could come up with a really interesting timeline here.

[Lincoln Republican]

Teddy Roosevelt has always been one of my favorite Presidents.

I have been of the opinion he should have run as the Republican candidate in 1908.  He would have been re-elected at that time. 

It is extremly difficult to skip an election, and come back in the next one and win. 

Had Teddy been elected in 1912, as a military man, Roosevelt would have been a strong defender of American interests.  However, he would have committed the nation to the conflict only when necessary to protect America's interests.  There simply was not the public support in the U.S. to get involved in this war unless it became necessary.  Therefore, I believe, TR would have sent America to war in 1917.  Clearly, the Allies would win.   

[jokerman]

There was actually a group of historians who came together and created a timeline on this.  Roosevelt bulks up the millitary, we get in the war a bit earlier and the war ends quite earlier as well.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

There was actually a group of historians who came together and created a timeline on this.  Roosevelt bulks up the millitary, we get in the war a bit earlier and the war ends quite earlier as well.

What are the implications for a post-war Germany?  My theory is that earlier defeat = less angry allies = less humiliating post-war situation for the Weimar Republic = No Nazi Germany.

No Nazi Germany = no WWII = unchecked fascism in Mediterranean and Japan (though a Japan/USSR war would have been inevitable).  No WWII also = no postwar boom for USA, USSR in much better shape and +50 million in population, no State of Israel = no rise of Islamic terror, radically different civil rights movement in USA.

Very interesting possible timeline there.  Some good things, some bad.  I never would have been born, though .

[Burn baby, Burn]

the republican party would have dissapeared IMHO, and the democrats would have moved significantly to the left. by 1920 the democrats would be the republicans and the progressives would be the democrats. FDR would become the longest serving progressive president, and progressive John Kerry would have recently lost to Democrat George W Bush...
man that sounds weird

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

the republican party would have dissapeared IMHO, and the democrats would have moved significantly to the left.

No, the Democrats would have filled in the right-wing vaccuum left by the Republicans.  Many conservative Republicans would have become Democrats, and the Democrats would have become the part of big business and white southerners, much as the Republicans are today.

You are forgetting the power of big business in shaping American politics.  While it is true that if there ever were a man in history to make Progressive politics palatable to business, it was TR, but there will always be a right-wing in America.

[Burn baby, Burn]

thats what I ment, to the right. type-o. read the context of the rest of my post.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

thats what I ment, to the right. type-o. read the context of the rest of my post.

Ok.  Your wording was a little confusing.  I thought you were saying that the Democrats would have moved to the left, but would still have been to the right of the Republicans.