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« on: August 06, 2017, 10:00:13 AM »

It may look like an uphill battle right now, but I'm curious to know what Democrats would need to do to reverse the shellacking they got in 2016 put them within the margins of victory. Secondly, who would be able to do it?
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2017, 12:53:18 PM »

Sherrod Brown is the only one I can think of, but even then, he's struggling in his 2018 Senate race.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2017, 03:02:32 PM »

Ohio wasn't even near the tipping point or a bellwether.

Better questions:

Who can win back Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan?

Who can flip Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida in case the trends exaggerate even more?

Can someone pull a Bill Clinton and do for the former what Bill did for The South and for the latter what he did to Dukakis' gains in New England, Montana, and The West Coast? And whom?

Who can win Nevada by a lot of points? Nevada has been more reliable than Ohio with regards to the popular vote as of late, and besides the two elections where the winner was an Eastern dark horse, it's predicted the winner since 1912 [Ohio got FDR and JFK wrong in the same period of time]. If Hillary had won Nevada by 3 points, odds are, she'd have taken the nation by 3, which was needed to keep the EV in balance.

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2017, 03:11:16 PM »

Steve Bullock, Joe Manchin (doubt he will run), Bernie Sanders, Tim Ryan (doubt he will run), and Joe Biden (doubt he will run) and would make it Tilt to Lean D vs Trump.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2017, 04:38:00 PM »

Cory Booker and Tim Ryan could win the Buckeye state

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2017, 05:05:54 PM »

Steve Bullock, Joe Manchin (doubt he will run), Bernie Sanders, Tim Ryan (doubt he will run), and Joe Biden (doubt he will run) and would make it Tilt to Lean D vs Trump.
All except Sanders are reasonable.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2017, 05:30:29 PM »

vs. Trump? Only the hometown hero Sherrod Brown. I don't believe any other Dem can successfully challenge him there.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2017, 05:43:36 PM »

If Manchin is nominated, then there will be a left wing 3rd party challenge that will cost him the election. That is a fact.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2017, 05:55:21 PM »

Its obvious, Cory Booker will select Hickenlooper or Tim Ryan as Veeps since Bullock won't be a factor and Ryan can't win a Gubernatorial seat in 2018. Tim Ryan should vacate his Congressional seat and run with Cory Booker

Because there is news out there that GOP want Pence to run instead of Trump and that would be the strongest ticket to beat Pence/Thune ticket out there. Take Ohio and Iowa and VA away.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2017, 06:04:54 PM »

If Manchin is nominated, then there will be a left wing 3rd party challenge that will cost him the election. That is a fact.

If in theory Manchin was the nominee, I think you would be correct. But, I doubt he runs, and even if he did, he would never win the democratic primaries, he is just too right for the national party. He would do very well in primary places like WV, MT, NC, etc. But just too many votes from the West Coast and seaboard would run him away.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2017, 06:23:57 PM »

Brown, Biden, and Bullock would stand a pretty good chance. Sanders might have a chance. Of course, if Trump is unpopular enough, he might lose Ohio even against a Democrat who isn't a good fit for the state.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2017, 05:40:23 AM »

Probably any of them but thats assuming they're strong enough to win the general.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2017, 06:56:58 AM »

Joe Manchin.
Any other answer is wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2017, 10:31:59 AM »

Trump style thats who.

Basically a decent amount of GOPers in Ohio dislike Trump, but wont vote for a democrat, a large number of democrats and independents love Trump here.

To the folks saying "Ohio wasn't close to being in play" Theres truth to that, but if Trump is winning ohio by 5% or more that means Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and even Minnesota are in play. Ohio will always be a bellwether because it will show which way the upper midwest is breaking.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2017, 11:10:35 AM »

In order for the next Democratic nominee to win Ohio, he or she must spend a considerable amount of time pitching an economic message which appeals to the working class there. If Ohio is able to be flipped, then Michigan & Pennsylvania would likely be considered "locks" for Democrats as well.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2017, 11:34:25 AM »

Good news, we don't need Ohio any more, heck we don't even need Florida. We just need to work hard to bring WI, MI, and PA back in the column, and let the inevitable unfold in NC and AZ within the next decade or so.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2017, 06:17:46 PM »

In order for the next Democratic nominee to win Ohio, he or she must spend a considerable amount of time pitching an economic message which appeals to the working class there. If Ohio is able to be flipped, then Michigan & Pennsylvania would likely be considered "locks" for Democrats as well.

Exactly. Trump won because he was pitching a populist message on economics that Hillary just wasn't. She was campaigning there with frickin' LeBron James, which was just cringey.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2017, 11:36:09 PM »

Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown, *maybe* Al Franken.
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