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« on: August 09, 2017, 08:29:37 AM »

I read about one guy who got fired from his job and had his wife leave him in the same week once it was revealed he was the creator of some rather nasty Pepe memes and some contributions to The Right Stuff.

But no. Don't want that to happen, don't be a Nazi.
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2017, 08:55:02 AM »

Not particularly. Depends on how malignant their posts were. If they're just a boring, run-of-the-mill magatroll, then I kind of feel bad. If they post incredibly racist and insensitive things, then I really have no sympathy.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2017, 09:23:28 AM »

Yes, the alt-right is just an overreaction to the globalist pro-"diversity" left who has ruled and ruined the world, while finger pointing every dissent as racism.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2017, 09:45:11 AM »

Alt-righters are more often doxxers than doxxees.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2017, 10:23:13 AM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2017, 11:18:19 AM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Wouldn't his wife have a right to know that her husband was a Nazi?
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2017, 02:26:08 PM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.
Don't worry, it's okay because justice ought to be served by the masses, as any individual sees fit.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2017, 02:38:58 PM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Shhhhh. You're disturbing their 2 minutes hate.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2017, 02:55:59 PM »

Er, doxxing is bad, I assumed we could all agree on that...
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2017, 03:40:39 PM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Wouldn't his wife have a right to know that her husband was a Nazi?
Of course she does but the issues for him are a lot bigger than that. Not only has he lost his wife, he now has no form of income and is completely unemployable, he won't be able to see his kids as often if he has them, his details are now out there in the open for anyone to see, potentially making him a target. The rest of his life will be a massive struggle, all because he posted some stupid memes on the internet.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2017, 05:32:13 PM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Wouldn't his wife have a right to know that her husband was a Nazi?
Of course she does but the issues for him are a lot bigger than that. Not only has he lost his wife, he now has no form of income and is completely unemployable, he won't be able to see his kids as often if he has them, his details are now out there in the open for anyone to see, potentially making him a target. The rest of his life will be a massive struggle, all because he posted some stupid memes on the internet.

Ok,  but he did it to himself, no?

I mean, practically every company in America will fire you for posting racist stuff on the internet. No one can be surprised when it happens.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2017, 07:33:26 PM »

Generally I don't approve of doxxing and wouldn't want someone to do it to me. But if I got doxxed it wouldn't "ruin my life" because I'm not on the internet saying the Holocaust didn't happen and telling people to get back in the oven. Not to mention that the expectation of complete anonymity on the internet is just naive these days. So I don't really feel sorry for them. If you don't wan to get caught being a racist POS don't be a racist POS. I would and do stand by any of the opinions I post on this site in public.
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2017, 07:46:43 PM »

Generally I don't approve of doxxing and wouldn't want someone to do it to me. But if I got doxxed it wouldn't "ruin my life" because I'm not on the internet saying the Holocaust didn't happen and telling people to get back in the oven. Not to mention that the expectation of complete anonymity on the internet is just naive these days. So I don't really feel sorry for them. If you don't wan to get caught being a racist POS don't be a racist POS. I would and do stand by any of the opinions I post on this site in public.

Indeed. This summarizes my view on ever feeling sorry for an alt-righter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw0GvsfOAZE
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2017, 09:25:01 PM »

Doxxing is not good.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2017, 12:17:36 AM »

"Sympathy?"  Not really.  But doxxing someone is something you just shouldn't do.

Yes, the alt-right is just an overreaction to the globalist pro-"diversity" left who has ruled and ruined the world, while finger pointing every dissent as racism.

I might make an exception for this character, though.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2017, 07:02:40 AM »

The fact that this question even needs to be asked is very worrying.

Getting doxxed is terrible, it doesn't matter what their political leanings are and just because someone has different political beliefs, doesn't mean they are less human and less deserving of privacy and the fact that someone was so angry about memes on the internet that they destroyed a guy's career and family is tragic.

Wouldn't his wife have a right to know that her husband was a Nazi?
Of course she does but the issues for him are a lot bigger than that. Not only has he lost his wife, he now has no form of income and is completely unemployable, he won't be able to see his kids as often if he has them, his details are now out there in the open for anyone to see, potentially making him a target. The rest of his life will be a massive struggle, all because he posted some stupid memes on the internet.

Ok,  but he did it to himself, no?

I mean, practically every company in America will fire you for posting racist stuff on the internet. No one can be surprised when it happens.

Well I don't think businesses should be allowed to fire employees for their political opinions unless there is a good case that those views would stand in the way of them doing their job but even if I thought it was ok for employees to be fired for that, it doesn't mean I wouldn't feel sympathy for a guy whose life has been ruined.

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2017, 07:12:30 AM »

If you don't want to be called out for sh**t you say online, don't say that sh**t online.  Easy.  YOU ARE NOT ANONYMOUS ONLINE!
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2017, 07:52:50 AM »

I mean I wouldn't want an alt-righter working at a business of mine because I'd be worried about Jewish and minority employees. It's a completely valid concern.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2017, 08:10:20 AM »

Generally I don't approve of doxxing and wouldn't want someone to do it to me. But if I got doxxed it wouldn't "ruin my life" because I'm not on the internet saying the Holocaust didn't happen and telling people to get back in the oven. Not to mention that the expectation of complete anonymity on the internet is just naive these days. So I don't really feel sorry for them. If you don't wan to get caught being a racist POS don't be a racist POS. I would and do stand by any of the opinions I post on this site in public.

The trouble with this is that the internet rumour mill will often misquote or outright fabricate transgressions if it helps "the cause". This isn't really confined to the left - it happens on the right, and to weirdly apolitical causes as well. I think the trend of doxxing as a "legitimate tactic" really is chilling, because mobs - from gamergate to those Tumblr pages that catalog people in culturally appropriative Halloween costumes - are by their very nature unforgiving and unreasonable.

I do feel sympathy for alt-righters who get doxxed, even the real dicks. I also feel the same for most anybody an internet hivemind feels pissed off enough at to target. As a tactic, it's harmful to society and - the key failing of any political tactic - doesn't really accomplish anything except allow people to reach catharsis.

The real problem is that nobody feels like they are part of an internet mob, and it's even easier to get caught up in it than an IRL mob (after all, you will never get punched in the face via screen).
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2017, 08:13:31 AM »

The difference between being alt-right and wearing a "culturally appropriative" Halloween costume is the vast majority of people and anyone with an ounce of sanity doesn't give a sh!t about the latter. Doxxing people for that doesn't exactly hurt them, what employer is going to care? Hell they probably already know if that person wore it to the company Halloween party.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2017, 09:03:30 AM »

I mean I wouldn't want an alt-righter working at a business of mine because I'd be worried about Jewish and minority employees. It's a completely valid concern.

Alt righters are not the only people who have a chance that they may commit violence. You could have a suspicion that anyone you work with could be violent. Believing in an extremist ideology does not mean you will commit violence in most cases. In fact, if you deny alt-righters the ability to get an income, then you make them more likely to be violent because you make it impossible for them to climb the economic ladder through legal means.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2017, 09:26:23 AM »

I don't know what either of those terms actually mean.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2017, 09:26:38 AM »

Doxxing is one of those things that, when you first hear about it several years ago, it was the worst of the worst; going nuclear. Then it was really, really, bad. Then it's just a controversial practice. Now it's practically becoming normal. In a few years, we may well look back on debates like this as rather quaint. I don't have the mental energy to expend feeling sympathy for alt righters who get doxxed, I hardly do anymore for non-alt righters who get doxxed. It's going to happen and there's nothing you can do about it, so just accept it. The faux outrage over it may continue for longer.
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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 09:57:03 AM »

Getting doxxed sucks. It's embarrassing and an outright violation of privacy. I believe that all people, regardless of ideology, deserve to be respected (unless they've committed an act of violence).
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 10:01:38 AM »

I don't know what either of those terms actually mean.
Dox - To search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.

Sympathy - Relating to another's misfortune and resulting emotions of pity and sorrow thereof; especially hard to understand for elitists.
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