MA-3: After Tsongas

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Let's take it a step further, impeach him and replace him with one Ms Anita Hill

Who is Anita Hill?

[QAnonKelly]

Let's take it a step further, impeach him and replace him with one Ms Anita Hill

Who is Anita Hill?

Bro are you joking?

[windjammer]

Welp, looks like I got my candidate.

[MAINEiac4434]

Move over Alexandria, I have a new favorite congressional candidate.

[Arkansas Yankee]

A lot of crazy talk here.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

[smoltchanov]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

Especially with a well-known conservative Green as a Republican candidate. Republican party in heavily blue states (like Massachusetts) more and more becomes a "puristic sect" of far-rightists, not the really "broad tent party" it generally was few decades ago. To be honest - parallel process is going in Democratic party in solidly red states (Utah, for example, and many southers states), where Democratic party becomes representative of only minority (religious in Utah case (mostly - non-Mormons), racial - in most of the South), not a "full spectrum" of people...

[Zaybay]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

Especially with a well-known conservative Green as a Republican candidate. Republican party in heavily blue states (like Massachusetts) more and more becomes a "puristic sect" of far-rightists, not the really "broad tent party" it generally was few decades ago. To be honest - parallel process is going in Democratic party in solidly red states (Utah, for example, and many southers states), where Democratic party becomes representative of only minority (religious in Utah case (mostly - non-Mormons), racial - in most of the South), not a "full spectrum" of people...

yep, this is correct. When you are in a state that has one dominating party and the other with a tiny minority party(like HI, or UT), the moderates, even if they lean to the minority party, will join the dominating party. This causes a cycle where the minority party becomes more and more extreme. When the South made the flip, the ones in control of the party were the reactionaries, which, now that they were given power, were able to enact their agenda. Its also the same reason that states like CT, WA, VT and NH have some of the most progressive D state senators and legislators, while states that have been D forever, like RI, and MA have a lot of moderates and conservative Dems.

[Zaybay]

Let's take it a step further, impeach him and replace him with one Ms Anita Hill

Who is Anita Hill?

I really hope you are not serious, but Ill explain anyway.

To make a large, large story short:

Clarence Thomas is going through confirmation, when Anita Hill reveals that she was sexually harassed by him. There is a huge divide over whether to confirm him(with Biden famously dismissing her), and basically the senate gives him the seat by a slim vote, and the public was semi-mad.

Edit: looking at polling at the time, most people believed Thomas over Hill, but the margin has basically shifted 50 points over to Anita.

[smoltchanov]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

Especially with a well-known conservative Green as a Republican candidate. Republican party in heavily blue states (like Massachusetts) more and more becomes a "puristic sect" of far-rightists, not the really "broad tent party" it generally was few decades ago. To be honest - parallel process is going in Democratic party in solidly red states (Utah, for example, and many southers states), where Democratic party becomes representative of only minority (religious in Utah case (mostly - non-Mormons), racial - in most of the South), not a "full spectrum" of people...

yep, this is correct. When you are in a state that has one dominating party and the other with a tiny minority party(like HI, or UT), the moderates, even if they lean to the minority party, will join the dominating party. This causes a cycle where the minority party becomes more and more extreme. When the South made the flip, the ones in control of the party were the reactionaries, which, now that they were given power, were able to enact their agenda. Its also the same reason that states like CT, WA, VT and NH have some of the most progressive D state senators and legislators, while states that have been D forever, like RI, and MA have a lot of moderates and conservative Dems.

So, TX, AL and OK will have considerable number of moderate Republicans in legislature soon?

[Zaybay]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

Especially with a well-known conservative Green as a Republican candidate. Republican party in heavily blue states (like Massachusetts) more and more becomes a "puristic sect" of far-rightists, not the really "broad tent party" it generally was few decades ago. To be honest - parallel process is going in Democratic party in solidly red states (Utah, for example, and many southers states), where Democratic party becomes representative of only minority (religious in Utah case (mostly - non-Mormons), racial - in most of the South), not a "full spectrum" of people...

yep, this is correct. When you are in a state that has one dominating party and the other with a tiny minority party(like HI, or UT), the moderates, even if they lean to the minority party, will join the dominating party. This causes a cycle where the minority party becomes more and more extreme. When the South made the flip, the ones in control of the party were the reactionaries, which, now that they were given power, were able to enact their agenda. Its also the same reason that states like CT, WA, VT and NH have some of the most progressive D state senators and legislators, while states that have been D forever, like RI, and MA have a lot of moderates and conservative Dems.

So, TX, AL and OK will have considerable number of moderate Republicans in legislature soon?

Yes, actually. Thats exactly what is happening in OK, KY, WV, AZ(even though that one is more split down the middle). The LA and GA were also hit. The only states that havent been hit by the moderates coming in are AL and MS, but most others are seeing a moderate rise.

[Brittain33]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

Especially with a well-known conservative Green as a Republican candidate. Republican party in heavily blue states (like Massachusetts) more and more becomes a "puristic sect" of far-rightists, not the really "broad tent party" it generally was few decades ago. To be honest - parallel process is going in Democratic party in solidly red states (Utah, for example, and many southers states), where Democratic party becomes representative of only minority (religious in Utah case (mostly - non-Mormons), racial - in most of the South), not a "full spectrum" of people...

yep, this is correct. When you are in a state that has one dominating party and the other with a tiny minority party(like HI, or UT), the moderates, even if they lean to the minority party, will join the dominating party. This causes a cycle where the minority party becomes more and more extreme. When the South made the flip, the ones in control of the party were the reactionaries, which, now that they were given power, were able to enact their agenda. Its also the same reason that states like CT, WA, VT and NH have some of the most progressive D state senators and legislators, while states that have been D forever, like RI, and MA have a lot of moderates and conservative Dems.

So, TX, AL and OK will have considerable number of moderate Republicans in legislature soon?

TX’s departed House Speaker was a moderate Republican who I believe had some Democratic support.

[smoltchanov]

A lot of crazy talk here.

Does not matter, this seat is not flipping in 2018 on the congressional level even in your wildest dreams.

Especially with a well-known conservative Green as a Republican candidate. Republican party in heavily blue states (like Massachusetts) more and more becomes a "puristic sect" of far-rightists, not the really "broad tent party" it generally was few decades ago. To be honest - parallel process is going in Democratic party in solidly red states (Utah, for example, and many southers states), where Democratic party becomes representative of only minority (religious in Utah case (mostly - non-Mormons), racial - in most of the South), not a "full spectrum" of people...

yep, this is correct. When you are in a state that has one dominating party and the other with a tiny minority party(like HI, or UT), the moderates, even if they lean to the minority party, will join the dominating party. This causes a cycle where the minority party becomes more and more extreme. When the South made the flip, the ones in control of the party were the reactionaries, which, now that they were given power, were able to enact their agenda. Its also the same reason that states like CT, WA, VT and NH have some of the most progressive D state senators and legislators, while states that have been D forever, like RI, and MA have a lot of moderates and conservative Dems.

So, TX, AL and OK will have considerable number of moderate Republicans in legislature soon?

TX’s departed House Speaker was a moderate Republican who I believe had some Democratic support.

Straus? Yes on both points. But in general i would call  only about 10% of Republican state legislative caucus in Texas "a moderates" (read - "pragmatic conservatives"), especially - on social issues. Such persons, as consistenly liberal on most social issues Sarah Davis, still mostly stand alone..

We shall see. May be "big tent" will still be preserved in "one-party states". Heavily competitive states, with very developed 2-party systems (Wisconsin, Michigan and so on), became too ideologically polarized for my tastes..