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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2017, 08:44:30 AM »

He's not stupid enough to take a Cabinet position in a Trump administration.

Surely he understands the consequences of being in a cabinet with war criminals.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2017, 08:48:31 AM »

My sympathies to Joe Manchin.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2017, 09:07:02 AM »

Senator Manchin is not a friend of Big Oil.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2017, 09:20:47 AM »

He's not stupid enough to take a Cabinet position in a Trump administration.

Surely he understands the consequences of being in a cabinet with war criminals.

Wut?
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2017, 09:30:31 AM »

He's not stupid enough to take a Cabinet position in a Trump administration.

Surely he understands the consequences of being in a cabinet with war criminals.

Wut?

Somebody in a position of high responsibility who publicizes a willingness to do a war of aggression is already a war criminal. This makes diplomatic bullying (cede this territory or we will invade your country) a crime against peace as shown in the Nuremberg trials.
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2017, 01:36:53 PM »

With the Dem party losing everywhere and dying it would make great sense for Manchin to flee the sinking ship.

If it is dying, then its death is a murder by people who want America to be the sort of country in which the many suffer greatly for economic elites responsible only to themselves.

Good sir, political parties cannot be murdered. At most they can commit ritual suicide.


Whatever is left of the losing Democrat party willingly associated itself with grotesque individuals such as Hillary Clinton rather than cleansing that cancer from the body politik. Talk about reaping what you sow!
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2017, 01:38:47 PM »

He's not stupid enough to take a Cabinet position in a Trump administration.

Surely he understands the consequences of being in a cabinet with war criminals.

Wut?

Somebody in a position of high responsibility who publicizes a willingness to do a war of aggression is already a war criminal. This makes diplomatic bullying (cede this territory or we will invade your country) a crime against peace as shown in the Nuremberg trials.
Good thing none of that is happening. Seriously, you're stretching it to get Trump kicked out. He's not a war criminal.
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2017, 11:49:52 PM »

Please no. I like Joe Manchin, I don't want his career tainted and ruined by association.
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2017, 11:53:06 PM »

Please no. I like Joe Manchin, I don't want his career tainted and ruined by association.

That happened when he birthed a daughter who would price gouge EpiPen.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2017, 02:27:39 AM »

This is obviously just a gimmick to snipe a Senate seat from the Democrats.
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2017, 07:10:13 AM »

Please no. I like Joe Manchin, I don't want his career tainted and ruined by association.

That happened when he birthed a daughter who would price gouge EpiPen.

We shouldn't blame parents for the sins of their adult children.
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2017, 10:03:18 AM »

This is obviously just a gimmick to snipe a Senate seat from the Democrats.

The bigger thing is that the new Senator would be the deciding vote to repeal Obamacare.
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2017, 10:16:43 AM »

Manchin said no before, so he's gonna say no this time, because we've seen what a sh**tshow this administration is.
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2017, 10:20:09 AM »

Please no. I like Joe Manchin, I don't want his career tainted and ruined by association.

That happened when he birthed a daughter who would price gouge EpiPen.
Yep because he can control what his daughter does.

Unless, you're implying that a man should have control over his daughter......
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2017, 01:46:32 PM »

Please no. I like Joe Manchin, I don't want his career tainted and ruined by association.

That happened when he birthed a daughter who would price gouge EpiPen.

We shouldn't blame parents for the sins of their adult children.

A refusal to disavow is silent consent of her actions.
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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2017, 01:48:37 PM »

Please no. I like Joe Manchin, I don't want his career tainted and ruined by association.

That happened when he birthed a daughter who would price gouge EpiPen.

We shouldn't blame parents for the sins of their adult children.

A refusal to disavow is silent consent of her actions.
^Jfern logic Tongue
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2017, 04:12:41 AM »

With the Dem party losing everywhere and dying it would make great sense for Manchin to flee the sinking ship.

Don't be blue, Krazen. A n important victory in the War on Whites was won this weekend in Charlottesville!
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2017, 07:48:41 AM »

Even though Jim Justice changed parties, the people of West Virginia voted a Democratic Governor, so if Manchin were to leave, Justice should not immediately pick a Republican to hold the seat.

The respectable move is to pick an elder statesman/ placeholder allowing for an open election.

The evil move would be to pick someone way too left for the state party (IE- Bernie Sanders' West Virginia campaign chairman) who would excite the left, and split Democratic primary votes in the future (the equivalent of briefly giving Wendy Davis a Senate seat.)
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2017, 11:50:06 AM »

Even though Jim Justice changed parties, the people of West Virginia voted a Democratic Governor, so if Manchin were to leave, Justice should not immediately pick a Republican to hold the seat.

The respectable move is to pick an elder statesman/ placeholder allowing for an open election.
Expecting Republicans to do anything respectable or statesman like is ridiculous after Garland was blocked from the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2017, 11:53:37 AM »

Wait, this is just right-wingers talking out their asses and he's not actually going to do this, right? Anyone, even a far-right lowlife like Kris Kobach or Joe Clark, would have to be a fool to take a job from Trump, considering the rate at which he goes through staff and how he relishes humiliating those who serve him.
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2017, 04:53:01 PM »

The press conference where Trump was speculated to be planning to announce Manchin's appointment came and went. Nothing happened. Looks like Manchin will be in the senate at least until 2019.
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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2017, 06:30:24 PM »

Wait, this is just right-wingers talking out their asses and he's not actually going to do this, right?

Yes, it's just a nerdy pipe dream triggered by Justice changing parties. No official sign it's real.
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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2017, 12:39:29 AM »

We're all probably too young to remember this, but I doubt anyone batted an eyelash when Spiro Agnew was replaced as Governor of Maryland by a Democrat WITHOUT an election either Wink

In any event, it's clear that it's probably not going to happen but it's reminded me of a similar issue we use to have here. This was very similar to the tactic used by the Coalition in the Dismissal of 1975 to increase its numbers in the Senate; the Federal Coalition pressuring state Premiers of the same party to replace departing Labor Senators with Coalition and independent ones. Again, it was nothing illegal nor unconstitutional but it did defy convention.

This tactic was so repugnant to the people of Australia, that the very same Coalition after it had achieved power with said tactic, proposed and passed a referendum that amended the Constitution so that Senators HAD to be replaced by members of the same party. It's all the more interesting considering we rarely pass referenda.
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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2017, 01:01:28 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2017, 01:08:48 PM »


Nice! I was afraid that Justice's switch would turn up the heat on him, and that he might be looking for an out.
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