Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally(Charlottesville)

[Horus]

So...American leftists want Bernie Sanders dead?

If he was a proud, open Jew they would.

He's not?

[The_Doctor]

Let me try to add original commentary.

Essentially Trump failed today.

His “many sides” quote was a dog whistle to the alt right and white nationalists. They knew he had to condemn them; they also wanted him to condemn their enemies. So Trump delivered. Note he hasn't commented on the car attack yet. That's deliberate. A fifth of his vote or more came from people who voted on a cultural / racial basis. He's beholden to them because the rest of the country dislikes him. There's a reason Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) called him out on it in Twitter. Notice Rubio, Portman, and others specifically used the terms “white nationalism” or a variation on this.

Doubt these people were Trump voters? Look up “blood and soil“ and ask who they voted for. Look up the pictures of those with MAGA hats and who cheered on Trump. There's a wealth of data for anyone willing to look at it. No the DSA is nowhere as powerful, lol. The Left has been underpowered here but we're not playing that game. This rally wasn't about reparations, wasn't about any of that. It was a white power rally that was intended to signal as such. That's very specifically what the President didn't want to single out and talk about.

In realignment terms however this isn't a good day for the GOP. They needed to denounce this in a much stronger voice and be a lot less unequivocal about who was to blame. They probably pushed some minorities and white voters further away from the GOP and toward the Democratic Party. As I've long noted 90% of the voting Republican coalition is white while 55% of the Democratic coalition is. The GOP's long reliance on the Southern Strategy is coming home to roost. (And has in a way since 2000)

[DavidB.]

David, you don't live in America and you have zero understanding of our racial history from your perch in the Low Countries. Stay in your own lane and stop hijacking this thread.

Triggered again? Do we get another rant about brown Jews from you now?

Dude, you're twisting yourself into knots because you aren't even willing to unequivocally criticize literal NAZIS.

Yes I am, and I have?

So...American leftists want Bernie Sanders dead?

If he was a proud, open Jew they would.

This.

[Zinneke]

So...American leftists want Bernie Sanders dead?

If he was a proud, open Jew they would.

This.

Source.

[Devout Centrist]

David, you don't live in America and you have zero understanding of our racial history from your perch in the Low Countries. Stay in your own lane and stop hijacking this thread.

Triggered again? Do we get another rant about brown Jews from you now?

Dude, you're twisting yourself into knots because you aren't even willing to unequivocally criticize literal NAZIS.

Yes I am, and I have?

So...American leftists want Bernie Sanders dead?

If he was a proud, open Jew they would.

This.

You sincerely think that people don't know Bernie Sanders, from Brooklyn, who frequently cites his identity, is Jewish? Are you kidding me?

[ProudModerate2]

Wow, in just one photo, this picture captured everything trump is defending.
Looking at the image from left to right, you have a white-nationalist holding a Confederate flag, a KKK member in his red clown suit and a fascist doing the "Sieg Heil" Hitler salute.
I'm ready to vomit.

PS: What does the white star flag represent ? The one the KKK clown is holding ?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Seeing as how Minneapolis is an extremely leftist city, and Al Franken is a "proud, open Jew", then logic would stand that most in Minneapolis would want him dead...which is pretty weird with how they vote for him.

[Green Line]

Wow, in just one photo, this picture captured everything trump is defending.
Looking at the image from left to right, you have a white-nationalist holding a Confederate flag, a KKK member in his red clown suit and a fascist doing the "Sieg Heil" Hitler salute.
I'm ready to vomit.

PS: What does the white star flag represent ? The one the KKK clown is holding ?

The police are doing an amazing job.

[Deblano]

The next time Democrats regain the trifecta, they should go on an all-out assault on the white nationalist movement and their enablers, violent and non-violent alike.  Even if it means running roughshod over their First Amendment rights.  

Absolutely not, on the last part.   The Bill of Rights applies to everyone in this country, even those who might seem to not "deserve" it.  Trying to pick and choose who the rights applies to makes them worthless.

This is exactly what I feared is gonna happen as a result.

far-leftie commits terror attack, far-right gets outraged and emboldened.

far-righty commits terror attack, far-left gets outraged and emboldened.

far-leftie commits terror attack, far-right gets outraged and emboldened.

far-righty commits terror attack, far-left gets outraged and emboldened.

rinse and repeat until a lot of people are dead, injured, and have had their basic human rights violated.

[DavidB.]

You sincerely think that people don't know Bernie Sanders, from Brooklyn, who frequently cites his identity, is Jewish? Are you kidding me?

He's everything but a proud Jew, though -- every proud Jew is a Zionist. Sanders is as proud a Jew as Ana "Young Turk" Kasparian is a proud Armenian. I'm not exactly the only Jew viewing it this way.

[they don't love you like i love you]

You sincerely think that people don't know Bernie Sanders, from Brooklyn, who frequently cites his identity, is Jewish? Are you kidding me?

He's everything but a proud Jew, though -- every proud Jew is a Zionist. Sanders is as proud a Jew as Ana "Young Turk" Kasparian is a proud Armenian. I'm not exactly the only Jew viewing it this way.

Then the majority of American Jews are not "proud Jews", since just about all I've met don't really care at all either way about Zionism or Israel.

[Green Line]

You sincerely think that people don't know Bernie Sanders, from Brooklyn, who frequently cites his identity, is Jewish? Are you kidding me?

He's everything but a proud Jew, though -- every proud Jew is a Zionist. Sanders is as proud a Jew as Ana "Young Turk" Kasparian is a proud Armenian. I'm not exactly the only Jew viewing it this way.

Then the majority of American Jews are not "proud Jews", since just about all I've met don't really care at all either way about Zionism or Israel.

You clearly don't know many.

[7,052,770]

PS: What does the white star flag represent ? The one the KKK clown is holding ?

It's the "Bonnie Blue" flag, which some Confederate states flew in 1861 before they organized a national government with a flag.

[Frodo]

It looks like Trump is going to have to do more saber rattling at North Korea & Co. if he's hoping to bring his poll numbers back up after this..... 

[Green Line]

It looks like Trump is going to have to do more saber rattling at North Korea & Co. if he's hoping to bring his poll numbers back up after this..... 

This will have approximately 0 effect on National polling.  I hadnt even heard of it til i got on here.

[Devout Centrist]

You sincerely think that people don't know Bernie Sanders, from Brooklyn, who frequently cites his identity, is Jewish? Are you kidding me?

He's everything but a proud Jew, though -- every proud Jew is a Zionist. Sanders is as proud a Jew as Ana "Young Turk" Kasparian is a proud Armenian. I'm not exactly the only Jew viewing it this way.

...really? You're going to go there?

Hardly comparable.

[TheSaint250]

I wish there were an amendment that allowed Congress to ban open participation in any sort of left or right-wing radical group that incites and/or practices violence.

[Frodo]

It looks like Trump is going to have to do more saber rattling at North Korea & Co. if he's hoping to bring his poll numbers back up after this..... 

This will have approximately 0 effect on National polling.  I hadnt even heard of it til i got on here.

Give it time to sink in....  

[ProudModerate2]

PS: What does the white star flag represent ? The one the KKK clown is holding ?

It's the "Bonnie Blue" flag, which some Confederate states flew in 1861 before they organized a national government with a flag.

Ah .... OK.
Thank you.
Here is a link in Wikipedia, if anyone is interested : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_Flag

[MichaelRbn]

The Bonnie Blue flag (the flag with the white star) was an early symbol of the CSA.

[Tartarus Sauce]

Let me try to add original commentary.

Essentially Trump failed today.

His “many sides” quote was a dog whistle to the alt right and white nationalists. They knew he had to condemn them; they also wanted him to condemn their enemies. So Trump delivered. Note he hasn't commented on the car attack yet. That's deliberate. A fifth of his vote or more came from people who voted on a cultural / racial basis. He's beholden to them because the rest of the country dislikes him. There's a reason Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) called him out on it in Twitter. Notice Rubio, Portman, and others specifically used the terms “white nationalism” or a variation on this.

Doubt these people were Trump voters? Look up “blood and soil“ and ask who they voted for. Look up the pictures of those with MAGA hats and who cheered on Trump. There's a wealth of data for anyone willing to look at it. No the DSA is nowhere as powerful, lol. The Left has been underpowered here but we're not playing that game. This rally wasn't about reparations, wasn't about any of that. It was a white power rally that was intended to signal as such. That's very specifically what the President didn't want to single out and talk about.

In realignment terms however this isn't a good day for the GOP. They needed to denounce this in a much stronger voice and be a lot less unequivocal about who was to blame. They probably pushed some minorities and white voters further away from the GOP and toward the Democratic Party. As I've long noted 90% of the voting Republican coalition is white while 55% of the Democratic coalition is. The GOP's long reliance on the Southern Strategy is coming home to roost. (And has in a way since 2000)

This.

The President has failed to act take a strong moral stand on this matter as would be expected from a leader. He demonstrates no reason for confidence that he will be able to act as a competent leader to look to during a crisis.

[heatcharger]

Okay Saint, just check out this article by 538, and realize that the subreddit r/the_Donald is just a few degrees of separation from other subreddits named r/fatpeoplehate, r/coontown, and r/kiketown. The self-denial is out of control dude.

I'm talking about connections, direct, to trump, not some stupid reddit page.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4uxdbn/im_donald_j_trump_and_im_your_next_president_of/

🤔🤔🤔

[BudgieForce]

You sincerely think that people don't know Bernie Sanders, from Brooklyn, who frequently cites his identity, is Jewish? Are you kidding me?

He's everything but a proud Jew, though -- every proud Jew is a Zionist. Sanders is as proud a Jew as Ana "Young Turk" Kasparian is a proud Armenian. I'm not exactly the only Jew viewing it this way.

Then the majority of American Jews are not "proud Jews", since just about all I've met don't really care at all either way about Zionism or Israel.

Uhm...

I assure you, many many Jews care deeply about Israel. Also, a huge majority of american Jews support a Palestinian state.  Most polls of Jewish Americans also back up my point.

That being said, support for Israel =/= Zionism. They are not mutually exclusive.

[Classic Conservative]

Okay Saint, just check out this article by 538, and realize that the subreddit r/the_Donald is just a few degrees of separation from other subreddits named r/fatpeoplehate, r/coontown, and r/kiketown. The self-denial is out of control dude.

I'm talking about connections, direct, to trump, not some stupid reddit page.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4uxdbn/im_donald_j_trump_and_im_your_next_president_of/

🤔🤔🤔

You are grasping at straws, so Trump did an AMA there and now it's an inter-connected plot. Stupid as hell.

[TheSaint250]

Okay Saint, just check out this article by 538, and realize that the subreddit r/the_Donald is just a few degrees of separation from other subreddits named r/fatpeoplehate, r/coontown, and r/kiketown. The self-denial is out of control dude.

I'm talking about connections, direct, to trump, not some stupid reddit page.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4uxdbn/im_donald_j_trump_and_im_your_next_president_of/

🤔🤔🤔

And is trump endorsing these racists? No. Is he praising them? No.

And it's very stupid to connect a president to internet comments.