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« Reply #250 on: August 12, 2017, 04:44:35 PM »

Some of the DSA protestors were undoubtedly supporters of crazy and hateful stuff like "reparations" and abolishing the police/prisons. The hate, bigotry and discord that tears apart the U.S. doesn't just come from one side (and yes, the organization behind the alt-right demonstration was absolutely deplorable too, but that goes without saying). People who don't see this are willingly blind and can't blame Trump for it; this issue long preceded Trump, as he himself alluded to.
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« Reply #251 on: August 12, 2017, 04:45:28 PM »

Trump may as well say he supports the neo-Nazi thugs.
He condemned them, but don't let facts get in the way of your strongly held opinion...

It was obviously an insincere condemnation. It's like when a teacher forces a child to apologize even though they don't want to. Trump was forced to condemn them because he's the president, but his demeanor and inappropriate asides stripped all meaning from what could have been a great opportunity for Trump to show some maturity and to be a president for all Americans.
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« Reply #252 on: August 12, 2017, 04:45:55 PM »

Without the counter-protest nothing would have happened

lol.

So racist are the only ones allowed to peacefully protest?
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« Reply #253 on: August 12, 2017, 04:46:13 PM »

Without the counter-protest nothing would have happened

It's the woman's fault she got raped.

It's the Jews' fault they got gassed.

It's the African-Americans' fault Jim Crow laws were instituted.

Piss off.
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« Reply #254 on: August 12, 2017, 04:46:27 PM »

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« Reply #255 on: August 12, 2017, 04:46:47 PM »

If leftists were 1/20th as violent as right wing media makes them out to be, this rally would've been been over by sunrise.
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« Reply #256 on: August 12, 2017, 04:46:57 PM »


Another mudslinging contest that fails to realise it is this toxic atmosphere that is dividing our societies.
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« Reply #257 on: August 12, 2017, 04:47:42 PM »

Do you guys fail to realize I'm more against the white supremacists than the others? I'm being chastised by a sea of S-?? for not taking a side.

This isn't hard.

One side was protesting, the other ran them over.

One terrorist ran people over.
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« Reply #258 on: August 12, 2017, 04:47:47 PM »

If leftists were 1/20th as violent as right wing media makes them out to be, this rally would've been been over by sunrise.

Seriously.

These assholes would be six feet under if lefties were as crazy as the right says they are.

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« Reply #259 on: August 12, 2017, 04:47:49 PM »

They started it. This murderous nutjob ended it. Violence begets violence. Spare me the crocodile tears about the "division" in the country.

Violence may beget violence, but "they started it" is not an excuse.
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« Reply #260 on: August 12, 2017, 04:49:06 PM »

They started it. This murderous nutjob ended it. Violence begets violence. Spare me the crocodile tears about the "division" in the country.

Violence may beget violence, but "they started it" is not an excuse.
You all had plenty of excuses on hand for the Scalise shooter.

I never excused the Scalise shooter.
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« Reply #261 on: August 12, 2017, 04:49:47 PM »

Without the counter-protest nothing would have happened

lol.

So racist are the only ones allowed to peacefully protest?

When it is in the same place, it is called provocation

Ah, the old "she was asking for it" excuse.
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« Reply #262 on: August 12, 2017, 04:50:23 PM »

Trump may as well say he supports the neo-Nazi thugs.
He condemned them, but don't let facts get in the way of your strongly held opinion...

Then why are Republicans like Gardner, Rubio, etc. are calling him out for not doing enough?
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« Reply #263 on: August 12, 2017, 04:51:06 PM »

"B-but... but what about MUH SCALISE?!"

I guess everything wrong the right does is justified because a lunatic who vaguely holds the same political views as I do shot some people months ago.

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« Reply #264 on: August 12, 2017, 04:52:37 PM »

Far-right hooligans across the country should be brought to heel. Law and order.
Again, when the left stops cracking skulls and shooting congresscritters I'll be a bit more concerned about the right.
Far-right animals deserve it.
Framed, excellent example of why it is truly "many sides" doing it. Thanks!
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« Reply #265 on: August 12, 2017, 04:54:07 PM »

The Republican base isn't the Neo Nazi with the car. It's the asshole sitting at home who gets a small feeling of satisfaction when he hears the news.
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« Reply #266 on: August 12, 2017, 04:55:53 PM »

Neo-Nazis/KKK/Alt-Right: White people are better than everyone else.

BLM/NAACP/etc: Non-white people are no better or worse than white people.

See the difference? Stop with the false equivalencies.
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« Reply #267 on: August 12, 2017, 04:56:15 PM »

The Republican base isn't the Neo Nazi with the car. It's the asshole sitting at home who gets a small feeling of satisfaction when he hears the news.
....yes, actually. I'll concede this.
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« Reply #268 on: August 12, 2017, 04:57:18 PM »

Using this list, and including today's incident here's my tally of terrorist incidents post-9/11 (rough count, not plugged into Excel or anything):

65 different attacks:
- 31 perpetrated by Islamic extremists
- 15 perpetrated by neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, and assorted far-right terrorists
- 3 perpetrated by black nationalists, ecoterrorists, and assorted far-left terrorists
- 16 perpetrated by people with other or unknown motives

167 people killed (not including attackers)
- 95 were killed by Islamic extremists (over half of these in the Orlando shooting)
- 37 were killed by neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, and assorted far-right terrorists
- 4 were killed by black nationalists, ecoterrorists, and assorted far-left terrorists
- 31 were killed by people with other or unknown motives
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« Reply #269 on: August 12, 2017, 04:57:29 PM »

"B-but... but what about MUH SCALISE?!"

I guess everything wrong the right does is justified because a lunatic who vaguely holds the same political views as I do shot some people months ago.


Clearly there is a double standard here. You rushed to distance your sides rhetoric from the Scalise shooter.

Absurd straw man.
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« Reply #270 on: August 12, 2017, 04:59:22 PM »

Using this list, and including today's incident here's my tally of terrorist incidents post-9/11 (rough count, not plugged into Excel or anything):

65 different attacks:
- 31 perpetrated by Islamic extremists
- 15 perpetrated by neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, and assorted far-right terrorists
- 3 perpetrated by black nationalists, ecoterrorists, and assorted far-left terrorists
- 16 perpetrated by people with other or unknown motives

167 people killed (not including attackers)
- 95 were killed by Islamic extremists (over half of these in the Orlando shooting)
- 37 were killed by neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, and assorted far-right terrorists
- 4 were killed by black nationalists, ecoterrorists, and assorted far-left terrorists
- 31 were killed by people with other or unknown motives
Precisely. If killing the families of ISIS members is okay, then killing the families of right-wing terrorists is okay too.
None of it is.
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« Reply #271 on: August 12, 2017, 05:00:07 PM »

Let's see if we can go the next 3 pages without resorting to whataboutism.
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« Reply #272 on: August 12, 2017, 05:00:18 PM »

Many on your side did. Will you disavow?

Yes, I will. The attack was unjustified and wrong.
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« Reply #273 on: August 12, 2017, 05:01:41 PM »

Using this list, and including today's incident here's my tally of terrorist incidents post-9/11 (rough count, not plugged into Excel or anything):

65 different attacks:
- 31 perpetrated by Islamic extremists
- 15 perpetrated by neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, and assorted far-right terrorists
- 3 perpetrated by black nationalists, ecoterrorists, and assorted far-left terrorists
- 16 perpetrated by people with other or unknown motives

167 people killed (not including attackers)
- 95 were killed by Islamic extremists (over half of these in the Orlando shooting)
- 37 were killed by neo-Nazis, sovereign citizens, and assorted far-right terrorists
- 4 were killed by black nationalists, ecoterrorists, and assorted far-left terrorists
- 31 were killed by people with other or unknown motives
Precisely. If killing the families of ISIS members is okay, then killing the families of right-wing terrorists is okay too.
Why don't you just kill yourself if you're this itchy to do some harm?

Cool it, Sanchez. You're going to get banned if you continue.
I'm going to get banned? Did you read Cora's post? It's only a matter of time before he goes out to "avenge" what happened today.
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« Reply #274 on: August 12, 2017, 05:02:02 PM »

Far-right hooligans across the country should be brought to heel. Law and order.
Again, when the left stops cracking skulls and shooting congresscritters I'll be a bit more concerned about the right.
Far-right animals deserve it.

You should seriously consider your posts more carefully before you get banned.
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