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« Reply #125 on: January 08, 2004, 04:17:03 pm »
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My parents divorced when I was six and my father hardly raised me.  He didn't help with schoolwork, nothing.  which is much of the reason I didn't get an education past a high school diploma.


Really. I thought your login name indicated that you graduated from Miami U.
Miami was one of the major colleges to offer me a partial scholarship, which is the reason I support their athletic teams.
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« Reply #126 on: January 08, 2004, 05:33:10 pm »
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I could use more choice words, but I consider you a murderer of the human spirit, willing to crush the hopes of those in the most desparate straits. Let's face it, you're just not a nice person.
Let's face it, you're weird and immoral.
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Yep. He is pretty weird. Someone who would betray his country's founding form of government is pretty wierd.
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« Reply #127 on: January 08, 2004, 05:34:52 pm »
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I could use more choice words, but I consider you a murderer of the human spirit, willing to crush the hopes of those in the most desparate straits. Let's face it, you're just not a nice person.
Let's face it, you're weird and immoral.
He's wierd!  Great comeback line, PD!
Yep. He is pretty weird. Someone who would betray his country's founding form of government is pretty wierd.

Not if he disagrees with it. It is notmore weird than thinking feminists want to murder children and destroy capitalism.
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« Reply #128 on: January 08, 2004, 05:36:04 pm »
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I could use more choice words, but I consider you a murderer of the human spirit, willing to crush the hopes of those in the most desparate straits. Let's face it, you're just not a nice person.
Let's face it, you're weird and immoral.
He's wierd!  Great comeback line, PD!
Yep. He is pretty weird. Someone who would betray his country's founding form of government is pretty wierd.

Not if he disagrees with it. It is notmore weird than thinking feminists want to murder children and destroy capitalism.
What's wierd about believing something that's true.
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« Reply #129 on: January 08, 2004, 05:39:01 pm »
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I could use more choice words, but I consider you a murderer of the human spirit, willing to crush the hopes of those in the most desparate straits. Let's face it, you're just not a nice person.
Let's face it, you're weird and immoral.
He's wierd!  Great comeback line, PD!
Yep. He is pretty weird. Someone who would betray his country's founding form of government is pretty wierd.

Not if he disagrees with it. It is notmore weird than thinking feminists want to murder children and destroy capitalism.
What's wierd about believing something that's true.

Where on earth do you get these ideas? "destroy capitalism". What do you get that from? It is illogical and insane.
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« Reply #130 on: January 08, 2004, 05:42:04 pm »

Feminists are about treatment not based on gender. There is still a substantial gap in poverty, income, leadership, double standards, and visibility between the genders. Its good that feminists are trying to address these things.
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« Reply #131 on: January 08, 2004, 07:47:06 pm »
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I'm not betraying my founding form of government. I believe I'm standing foursquare behind the text of the Constitution. I think you might think you're defending the Constitution, but I think you're misguided.
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« Reply #132 on: January 09, 2004, 12:22:24 am »
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I'm not betraying my founding form of government. I believe I'm standing foursquare behind the text of the Constitution. I think you might think you're defending the Constitution, but I think you're misguided.
I guarantee you this: we weren't founded as a Socialist Republic.
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« Reply #133 on: January 09, 2004, 12:30:40 am »
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Feminists are about treatment not based on gender. There is still a substantial gap in poverty, income, leadership, double standards, and visibility between the genders. Its good that feminists are trying to address these things.
The only thing feminists are trying to adress is that women are better than men and that men are worthless, weak pigs. That's all. I'm not saying that I think women shouldn't vote or have jobs, what I'm saying is that women should not neglect their natural duty to families. It is a proven fact that most men work harder, career-wise, and are more able to do hard work. This is like saying that women would be excellent football players. Feminists would rather use a dildo than get married to a real man and start a family. They see children as a waste of time, things that get in the way of their constant, neverending boyfriends that they screw one night and abandon the next. One feminist said that it should be a woman's right to choose whether she wants to have a child without the father there. That's bullsh**t!  
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« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2004, 09:45:12 am »
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Feminists are about treatment not based on gender. There is still a substantial gap in poverty, income, leadership, double standards, and visibility between the genders. Its good that feminists are trying to address these things.
The only thing feminists are trying to adress is that women are better than men and that men are worthless, weak pigs. That's all. I'm not saying that I think women shouldn't vote or have jobs, what I'm saying is that women should not neglect their natural duty to families. It is a proven fact that most men work harder, career-wise, and are more able to do hard work. This is like saying that women would be excellent football players. Feminists would rather use a dildo than get married to a real man and start a family. They see children as a waste of time, things that get in the way of their constant, neverending boyfriends that they screw one night and abandon the next. One feminist said that it should be a woman's right to choose whether she wants to have a child without the father there. That's bullsh**t!  

So you think that every woman should have to assume their "natural duty to families", b/c "it is a proven fact that men work harder, career-wise"? Has it crossed your mind that this might be b/c men choose that path, not that they are naturally inclined to do so? IQ tests have shown that blacks generally have slightly lower intelligence than whites, should they then do menial labour? Feminism is fundamentally about gender equality, not destroying capitalism, or any of the other stupid accusations you come with. You have no idea what you're talking about, sory if you're offended, but someone has to break it to you. These comments on women's rights are just way out there.
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« Reply #135 on: January 09, 2004, 04:09:04 pm »
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I'm not betraying my founding form of government. I believe I'm standing foursquare behind the text of the Constitution. I think you might think you're defending the Constitution, but I think you're misguided.
I guarantee you this: we weren't founded as a Socialist Republic.
But we were founded as a Republic believing in free speech.  Migrendel can be a socialist, because of the first (and least controversial) amendment.

We have had 2 socialist presidents, arguably, TR and FDR.
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« Reply #136 on: January 09, 2004, 04:44:53 pm »
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I'm not betraying my founding form of government. I believe I'm standing foursquare behind the text of the Constitution. I think you might think you're defending the Constitution, but I think you're misguided.
I guarantee you this: we weren't founded as a Socialist Republic.
But we were founded as a Republic believing in free speech.  Migrendel can be a socialist, because of the first (and least controversial) amendment.

We have had 2 socialist presidents, arguably, TR and FDR.

Can TR be said to have been a socialist? FDR was essentially a social democrat, but I could agree to call him a moderate socialist.
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« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2004, 06:46:23 pm »
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TR favored the government haing a part in ownership of most everything, which is a socialist principle.
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« Reply #138 on: January 09, 2004, 06:54:17 pm »
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TR favored the government haing a part in ownership of most everything, which is a socialist principle.

Yes, but was he in favor of social equality at all? Otherwise he would be more of a fascist, I'd say! Smiley
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« Reply #139 on: January 09, 2004, 06:55:39 pm »
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TR favored the government haing a part in ownership of most everything, which is a socialist principle.

Yes, but was he in favor of social equality at all? Otherwise he would be more of a fascist, I'd say! Smiley
How about we settle by calling TR a "Social-oriented Progressive".  Sound good?
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« Reply #140 on: January 09, 2004, 06:57:39 pm »
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TR favored the government haing a part in ownership of most everything, which is a socialist principle.

Yes, but was he in favor of social equality at all? Otherwise he would be more of a fascist, I'd say! Smiley
How about we settle by calling TR a "Social-oriented Progressive".  Sound good?

Lol, I hardly know what that means... Sad
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« Reply #141 on: January 09, 2004, 06:59:58 pm »
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Progressives were anti-big business monopolies and were strong in the first quarter of the 20th century.  Presidents Taft, Roosevelt, and McKinley were Progressives.
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« Reply #142 on: January 09, 2004, 07:01:42 pm »
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Progressives were anti-big business monopolies and were strong in the first quarter of the 20th century.  Presidents Taft, Roosevelt, and McKinley were Progressives.

OK, then we'll call him that, I guess...
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« Reply #143 on: January 09, 2004, 07:04:46 pm »
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« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2004, 05:09:50 pm »
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Feminists are about treatment not based on gender. There is still a substantial gap in poverty, income, leadership, double standards, and visibility between the genders. Its good that feminists are trying to address these things.
The only thing feminists are trying to adress is that women are better than men and that men are worthless, weak pigs. That's all. I'm not saying that I think women shouldn't vote or have jobs, what I'm saying is that women should not neglect their natural duty to families. It is a proven fact that most men work harder, career-wise, and are more able to do hard work. This is like saying that women would be excellent football players. Feminists would rather use a dildo than get married to a real man and start a family. They see children as a waste of time, things that get in the way of their constant, neverending boyfriends that they screw one night and abandon the next. One feminist said that it should be a woman's right to choose whether she wants to have a child without the father there. That's bullsh**t!  

So you think that every woman should have to assume their "natural duty to families", b/c "it is a proven fact that men work harder, career-wise"? Has it crossed your mind that this might be b/c men choose that path, not that they are naturally inclined to do so? IQ tests have shown that blacks generally have slightly lower intelligence than whites, should they then do menial labour? Feminism is fundamentally about gender equality, not destroying capitalism, or any of the other stupid accusations you come with. You have no idea what you're talking about, sory if you're offended, but someone has to break it to you. These comments on women's rights are just way out there.

Gustaf, my understanding is Sweden is very good with women's rights. Is this true? If so, what ways does it differ with the U.S. with regards to women's rights?
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« Reply #145 on: January 11, 2004, 06:40:41 pm »
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« Reply #146 on: January 12, 2004, 05:11:45 am »
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I am also pro-choice, but personally I am against Abortion in principle.
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« Reply #147 on: January 12, 2004, 01:48:37 pm »
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Feminists are about treatment not based on gender. There is still a substantial gap in poverty, income, leadership, double standards, and visibility between the genders. Its good that feminists are trying to address these things.
The only thing feminists are trying to adress is that women are better than men and that men are worthless, weak pigs. That's all. I'm not saying that I think women shouldn't vote or have jobs, what I'm saying is that women should not neglect their natural duty to families. It is a proven fact that most men work harder, career-wise, and are more able to do hard work. This is like saying that women would be excellent football players. Feminists would rather use a dildo than get married to a real man and start a family. They see children as a waste of time, things that get in the way of their constant, neverending boyfriends that they screw one night and abandon the next. One feminist said that it should be a woman's right to choose whether she wants to have a child without the father there. That's bullsh**t!  

So you think that every woman should have to assume their "natural duty to families", b/c "it is a proven fact that men work harder, career-wise"? Has it crossed your mind that this might be b/c men choose that path, not that they are naturally inclined to do so? IQ tests have shown that blacks generally have slightly lower intelligence than whites, should they then do menial labour? Feminism is fundamentally about gender equality, not destroying capitalism, or any of the other stupid accusations you come with. You have no idea what you're talking about, sory if you're offended, but someone has to break it to you. These comments on women's rights are just way out there.

Gustaf, my understanding is Sweden is very good with women's rights. Is this true? If so, what ways does it differ with the U.S. with regards to women's rights?

Well, we are very PC, modern and non-secular. Swedes are nice people who want to please everyone and do the right thing. So we are sensitive to women's rights, half the cabinet members are women, for example, a tradition introduced roughly a decade ago by a Labour PM. We also have certain laws on forcing men to take part of the parent leave (or whatever you call it in English, I don't know the exact term) and so on. Still, we're not close to gender equality or anything, the main difference is in the attitude towards women which is very tolerant in Sweden. I am not an expert in the field, though, I honestly haven't taken that much interest in gender issues.
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« Reply #148 on: January 12, 2004, 04:46:39 pm »
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I am also pro-choice, but personally I am against Abortion in principle.
You jump around on this issue.
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« Reply #149 on: January 12, 2004, 04:54:21 pm »
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sounds like the position only a politician could love Smiley


I am also pro-choice, but personally I am against Abortion in principle.
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