1988 Election: Mario Cuomo vs George Bush
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« on: August 18, 2017, 06:28:36 AM »

In 1988 Mario Cuomo decides to run and wins the Democratic Nomination and faces George Bush who wins?
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 02:01:09 PM »

In 1988 Mario Cuomo decides to run and wins the Democratic Nomination and faces George Bush who wins?
Pick one ing scenario and stick with it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 10:32:39 PM »

In 1988 Mario Cuomo decides to run and wins the Democratic Nomination and faces George Bush who wins?
Pick one ing scenario and stick with it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 02:54:51 PM »

Bush still wins, but Cuomo does way better than Dukakis.



✓ Vice President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN): 320 EVs.; 51.9%
Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Lawton Chiles (D-FL): 218 EVs.; 46.7%
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 10:04:18 AM »

I don't really get why everyone just assumes Cuomo would lose. Dukakis ran an utterly horrible campaign and blew a ten point lead. If Cuomo avoids his mistakes, it would be, at the very least, extremely close.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2017, 09:52:31 PM »

I don't really get why everyone just assumes Cuomo would lose. Dukakis ran an utterly horrible campaign and blew a ten point lead. If Cuomo avoids his mistakes, it would be, at the very least, extremely close.
Because people in 1988 were still in a conservative mood and Cuomo would have been tarred with the same brush as Dukakis - ULTRA LIBERAL.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 10:45:28 PM »

I don't really get why everyone just assumes Cuomo would lose. Dukakis ran an utterly horrible campaign and blew a ten point lead. If Cuomo avoids his mistakes, it would be, at the very least, extremely close.

He definitely could win, but whether he does is highly dependent on how he performs in the debate and how well he runs his campaign. Regardless, I think we can all agree 1992 was Cuomo's best chance to become President.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2017, 11:04:14 PM »

I don't really get why everyone just assumes Cuomo would lose. Dukakis ran an utterly horrible campaign and blew a ten point lead. If Cuomo avoids his mistakes, it would be, at the very least, extremely close.
Because people in 1988 were still in a conservative mood and Cuomo would have been tarred with the same brush as Dukakis - ULTRA LIBERAL.
But Dukakis didn't lose because he was "ultra liberal"; he lost because he never responded to attacks, made unforced errors, and gave horrendous debate performances.

Too often these election threads assume the winner in a previous election will almost always win against a new opponent. This isn't always true.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2017, 11:45:23 AM »

I don't really get why everyone just assumes Cuomo would lose. Dukakis ran an utterly horrible campaign and blew a ten point lead. If Cuomo avoids his mistakes, it would be, at the very least, extremely close.
Because people in 1988 were still in a conservative mood and Cuomo would have been tarred with the same brush as Dukakis - ULTRA LIBERAL.
But Dukakis didn't lose because he was "ultra liberal"; he lost because he never responded to attacks, made unforced errors, and gave horrendous debate performances.

Too often these election threads assume the winner in a previous election will almost always win against a new opponent. This isn't always true.

I agree, Cuomo would have been a very strong candidate. Although 1988 was real life landslide, Democrats could have won with a better candidate (I personally think that a Bentsen/Cuomo ticket would have been victorius).



✓ Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 271 EV. - 49.66%

Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush (R-TX)/Senator J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 267 EV. - 48.28%

Ohio would have been very close, possibly also going to Cuomo and giving him 294 electoral votes.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2017, 01:46:09 PM »

Bush still wins pretty handily :





Bush 356
Cuomo 182
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2017, 12:22:12 PM »



Cuomo/Gerphardt: 299 EV, 50% pv
Bush/Quayle: 239 EV, 48% pv
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2017, 09:43:01 AM »

Charisma is key in presidential elections, and Cuomo had it (unlike Dukakis). At the very least he'd have ran it close.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2017, 10:23:19 AM »



Probably this

Cuomo: 272
Bush: 266
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 09:44:18 AM »

Bush still wins, but Cuomo does way better than Dukakis.



✓ Vice President George Bush (R-TX)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN): 320 EVs.; 51.9%
Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Senator Lawton Chiles (D-FL): 218 EVs.; 46.7%

I think Cuomo would also take Wisconsin but otherwise this seems about right.
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