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Rjjr77
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« on: August 21, 2017, 12:49:02 PM »

Democrats definitely should try again in 2020 in Kentucky, Mcconnell has a 18/74 approval rating lol

And McConnell will win. Hes arguably the greatest campaigner of this generation.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 02:38:25 PM »

Democrats definitely should try again in 2020 in Kentucky, Mcconnell has a 18/74 approval rating lol

And McConnell will win. Hes arguably the greatest campaigner of this generation.

When all a Republican has to do to win statewide is yell about guns, coal, freeduhm and black people, it really does kind of overinflate his campaign abilities.

you dont give McConnell enough credit, his approvals are always underwater, hes kept his seat against the most popular politician in kentucky history, in a year when a D president won  ('96). The guys absolutely brilliant, hes destroyed top level competition when kentucky was a Democrat state. He knows people wont like him, so he makes them hate his opponent more than they hate him, hes always first out the gate, and he doesnt pull punches. He's one of the best all time.

the list of people he's beaten is amazing:
Incumbent 2 term democrat Dee Huddleston, Popular Louisville mayor Harvey Sloane, Steve Beshear, daughter of a popular former governor and judge Lois Combs Weinberg, Businessman Bruce Lunsford, and SOS (and so called rising star) Allison Lundergan Grimes. He always gets a legitimate challenge and he always wins by solid margins.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 08:01:43 AM »

Okay come on guys Mitch McConnell isn't Jack Kennedy

Jack Kennedy never faced the competition McConnell did.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2017, 10:34:12 AM »

Okay come on guys Mitch McConnell isn't Jack Kennedy

Jack Kennedy never faced the competition McConnell did.

Henry Cabot Lodge would disagree.

and? If you think about it JFK won 2 competitive races in his entire career.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2017, 10:36:48 AM »

Will Shelley Moore Capito face a primary challenger in 2020?

no. shes super popular in her state, her father is also one of the most popular political figures in West Virginia history.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 11:23:30 AM »

Okay come on guys Mitch McConnell isn't Jack Kennedy

Jack Kennedy never faced the competition McConnell did.

Henry Cabot Lodge would disagree.

and? If you think about it JFK won 2 competitive races in his entire career.

1984 and 1996 were the only really impressive McConnell wins. 2008 was an embarrassment and 2002 and 2014 shouldn't have been competitive for a Democrat regardless
1984 he beats an incumbent
1990 he beats a popular former Louisville mayor (and county executive)
1996 he beats the most popular politician in Kentucky history, in a state that went democrat for president at the same time
in 2002 they brought out a member of a fairly well known kentucky dynasty to face McConnell, he destroyed her.
in 2008, a year with Obama on the ticket and McConnell still unpopular (remember hes unpopular in most of these races) the DSCC went after McConnell hard and they had a good candidate, McConnell still beats him, by a solid margin.
2014, its the rising star of the Kentucky democrat party, she gets throttled.

Yes 2002 and 2014 were republican years but 2008, 1996, 1990 werent.

you also have to remember Kentucky is a state that in the past 100 years has only elected 6 Republican governors, so it isn't as if it has been some deep blue state, McConnell is impressive.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 11:25:02 AM »

Okay come on guys Mitch McConnell isn't Jack Kennedy

Jack Kennedy never faced the competition McConnell did.

Henry Cabot Lodge would disagree.

and? If you think about it JFK won 2 competitive races in his entire career.

But you were wrong to claim that JFK never faced the competition that Mitch did; won a senate seat against the most famous family in Massachusetts, in a year when Eisenhower carried the state, then won the nomination of the party despite facing the previous nominee and the Senate Majority Leader at the convention, and then beat the sitting Vice-President during a relatively peace and prosperous time.

My entire point is that yes Mitch is a good campaigner, and has come back from bad odds but he's not the best political campaigner in the last 100 years as some people are claiming.

He hasnt faced the competition Mitch has, he had a rep seat cleared for him, and he faced one tough opponent in the senate and one tough opponent in a presidential. McConnell has faced 3x the opponents Kennedy has, while being unpopular.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2017, 08:56:23 PM »

Combs-Weinberg and Lunsford were trash candidates tho

Lunsford was no trash candidate (Why do people often assume the candidate sucks when he loses), he was recruited specifically for the race by Beshear out performed Obama by 6 points (and almost 100,000 votes). He was everything people say Kander is. Combs-Weinberg was a dynasty, she may have done poorly and not been the worlds best recruit but she was no joke.
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