What the hell happened in orange county, ca in dem primary?
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« on: August 21, 2017, 02:13:58 PM »

I thought for sure HRC would win by huge margins there, but Bernie came really damn close to winning the county.

Bernie's brand of socialist/social democracy seems like a bad fit for OC democrats, who tend to be less into anti-capitalism rhetoric and unionism than social freedoms/immigration.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 02:41:37 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2017, 04:59:41 PM by PoliticalShelter »

Because the democrats strength in California and in laces like Orange County isn't based in silicon valley, it's based on the large number of minority voters in the state who were quite friendly to Bernie as long as they weren't from the south and since California isn't, Bernie was going to get a decent performance in the state.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 03:56:16 PM »

Primary and General electorates are weird, and different. Trump lost the ND primaries by a lot, and yet it swung by double digits towards him.
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 04:00:07 PM »

As was mentioned by Timmy, most of the people you are imagining in your head as "Orange County types" are just simply registered Republicans in a closed primary state.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 11:46:14 PM »

As was mentioned by Timmy, most of the people you are imagining in your head as "Orange County types" are just simply registered Republicans in a closed primary state.

Basically. Most Republicas I meet qualify their statements with "I'm a Republican except on insert social/environmental/healthcare/etc. issue here" while every Democrat I meet just says they're a Democrat/liberal/progressive and leave it at that.

To put it another way, for every single blue dog moderate Dem who lives here there's probably at least 5+ Rockefeller Republicans by comparison.
I don't think so I really think it Orange County flipped because of Mexicans and young people because Barry Goldwater even won Orange County by 10 points.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 02:02:59 AM »

As was mentioned by Timmy, most of the people you are imagining in your head as "Orange County types" are just simply registered Republicans in a closed primary state.

Basically. Most Republicas I meet qualify their statements with "I'm a Republican except on insert social/environmental/healthcare/etc. issue here" while every Democrat I meet just says they're a Democrat/liberal/progressive and leave it at that.

To put it another way, for every single blue dog moderate Dem who lives here there's probably at least 5+ Rockefeller Republicans by comparison.
I don't think so I really think it Orange County flipped because of Mexicans and young people because Barry Goldwater even won Orange County by 10 points.

Not the full picture. If you look at the precinct maps you'll see that college educated white areas were just as likely to swing against Trump as Hispanic areas. CA-48 voted 17 points for its GOP representative to congress but 2 points for Hillary Clinton for example.

Trump is a GOD AWFUL fit for suburban Orange County Republicans. I'm not sure you could make a worse GOP candidate to cater to this group.
Now that's something I do agree with now what I really wonder is what would have happened if Ted Cruz had been nominated would we have seen the yuge swings in northern Virginia, southern Connecticut, Atlanta area, Austin area,Dallas area, and socal
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 04:09:06 PM »

As was mentioned by Timmy, most of the people you are imagining in your head as "Orange County types" are just simply registered Republicans in a closed primary state.

Basically. Most Republicas I meet qualify their statements with "I'm a Republican except on insert social/environmental/healthcare/etc. issue here" while every Democrat I meet just says they're a Democrat/liberal/progressive and leave it at that.

To put it another way, for every single blue dog moderate Dem who lives here there's probably at least 5+ Rockefeller Republicans by comparison.
I don't think so I really think it Orange County flipped because of Mexicans and young people because Barry Goldwater even won Orange County by 10 points.

He was talking about how people are registered in the county and what primaries they vote in, so I'm not sure what the hell your post had to do with that, haha.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2017, 06:20:19 PM »

As was mentioned by Timmy, most of the people you are imagining in your head as "Orange County types" are just simply registered Republicans in a closed primary state.

Basically. Most Republicas I meet qualify their statements with "I'm a Republican except on insert social/environmental/healthcare/etc. issue here" while every Democrat I meet just says they're a Democrat/liberal/progressive and leave it at that.

To put it another way, for every single blue dog moderate Dem who lives here there's probably at least 5+ Rockefeller Republicans by comparison.
I don't think so I really think it Orange County flipped because of Mexicans and young people because Barry Goldwater even won Orange County by 10 points.

Goldwater won gay rural bastion Alpine, and lost the rest of The Dixie North hard, especially Plumas.

Ergo, not relevant.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2017, 09:30:24 PM »

Orange County today isn't the same as it was in the days it was Nixonland.
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