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« on: August 21, 2017, 09:55:49 PM »
« edited: August 21, 2017, 09:57:40 PM by omelott »

Every time I imagine Donald Trump's impending defeat, this is the first map that comes to mind.



I have one question.

Is it possible for Trump to win OH & IA while losing TX, AZ, GA, FL, & NC. If so, what factors make it a realistic outcome? Is Trump unique in that case?
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 11:20:04 PM »

If we were to shift the popular vote results from 2016 uniformly, OH would flip to D before TX.

Additionally, although Northern Maine was won by 10% in 2016, its Cook PVI rating in 2017 is less Republican than that of Eastern Nebraska (R+2 vs. R+4). Thus, I think Northern Maine would probably flip before Eastern Nebraska.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 01:48:35 AM »

Flip Texas, and the map is much more plausible, IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 02:33:57 AM »

Flip Texas, and the map is much more plausible, IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 10:47:49 AM »

Winning Texas without IA or OH also flipping would be very unlikely. As others mentioned, this would likely only be possible if a Texan was the Democratic nominee, ex. Castro. I guess someone like Harris, who would probably be not particularly strong iin the Midwest but stronger among minority groups (and the Sun Belt area as a whole) could potentially pull it off too, but once again I think any Democrat winning Texas is quite improbable. I think winning Georgia is a bit of a stretch too. But Arizona and NC flipping are entirely possible with the right candidate (in my Harris vs. Trump prediction, I have Harris winning both).
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2017, 10:55:15 AM »

A moderate, free-trader Democrat could perform well in the sunbelt while doing about as well as Hillary in the midwest. So I guess Castro?
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2017, 01:01:58 PM »

Flip Texas and it's plausible. no way a Democrat wins Texas while losing Ohio and Iowa.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2017, 10:06:55 PM »

Flip TX, OH, IA, and ME-02, and it's perfect.
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 02:03:14 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2017, 01:54:35 PM by ERM64man »

OH, IA, and ME-02 would flip before TX.

A more likely landslide scenario.


I think this is more likely for a GOP loss in 2020.
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