a william weld scenario

[WalterMitty]

weld defies all odds and beats elliot spitzer to become governor of ny.  he instantly becomes a national star and a frontrunner to the gop presidential nomination.

weld finishes first in the new hampshire primary and rides the wave of momentum through the front loaded primary system.

he picks mitt romney as his running mate.

how would a weld/romney ticket fare against a warner/richardson ticket?

[Max Power]

That. Will. Never. Happen. Thanks. Good. Bye.

[WalterMitty]

That. Will. Never. Happen. Thanks. Good. Bye.

use some imagination.

talking about warner/bayh vs. allen/romney and claiming 'itll all come down to ohio' gets a bit boring after a while.

politics is unpredictable.

[jokerman]

That. Will. Never. Happen. Thanks. Good. Bye.

[Max Power]

politics is unpredictable.

So are forest fires.

[tarheel-leftist85]

Warner--276EV
Weld--262EV

[Max Power]

Warner--276EV
Weld--262EV

LOL

[dazzleman]

That is impossible on both the Democratic and Republican sides.

There's no way either party will nominate two moderates.

I have no idea who would win, because these choices would alienate both party's bases.  The candidate whose base was less alienated would win.

[Ben Meyers]

I like the creative scenario Walter

I'd say Weld would win by a solid margin in the electoral college, maybe 330 or so EVs.  The popular vote would probably be a 53% to 45% Weld win, with higher Green & Constitution Party totals than usual.

[AuH2O]

Well, at least the House would get to choose again.

[Erc]

I'd say Warner would win--but who knows how Weld would look two years from now after smashing Spitzer.

In any case, I don't think there's any precedent for someone suddenly becoming the 'darling of the party'--well, at least since Wendell Wilkie, and those were extraordinary times.

If we're going to be expecting Wilkiesque scenarios, then we might as well expect...Phil Bredesen to be the Republican nominee in 2008.

[phk]

Weld/Romney would cause a lot of Southern White voter apathy, this affect similary doomed Dukakis with Black voters.

[Speed of Sound]

Gray= Too close to call

[Defarge]

hahahahahahaha

[Smash255]

Put down the crackpipe.  I would say Nassau County Exeutive Tom Suoozzi has a better chance of knocking off Spitzer in the Primary (if he decides to run) than Weld does of knocking off Spitzer

[YRABNNRM]

Put down the crackpipe.  I would say Nassau County Exeutive Tom Suoozzi has a better chance of knocking off Spitzer in the Primary (if he decides to run) than Weld does of knocking off Spitzer

You really can't be serious with that comment. Sure Spitzer will probably win(atleast from what it looks like now) but Suozzi has a better chance than Weld? Yea right...

We can continue this in the Governor's board if we must

[Smash255]

Put down the crackpipe.  I would say Nassau County Exeutive Tom Suoozzi has a better chance of knocking off Spitzer in the Primary (if he decides to run) than Weld does of knocking off Spitzer

You really can't be serious with that comment. Sure Spitzer will probably win(atleast from what it looks like now) but Suozzi has a better chance than Weld? Yea right...

We can continue this in the Governor's board if we must

Weld has a 0% chance of knocking off Spitzer, Suozzi I would say has a 0.001% chance.  (the whole Fix Albany campaign has gotten him some decent statewide attention).  I was just using it as an example to show how stupid this scenario is since Weld has no chance.  Anyway as I stated in the past Suozzi i think should run for King's seat for Congress (he would win)

[YRABNNRM]

Put down the crackpipe.  I would say Nassau County Exeutive Tom Suoozzi has a better chance of knocking off Spitzer in the Primary (if he decides to run) than Weld does of knocking off Spitzer

You really can't be serious with that comment. Sure Spitzer will probably win(atleast from what it looks like now) but Suozzi has a better chance than Weld? Yea right...

We can continue this in the Governor's board if we must

Weld has a 0% chance of knocking off Spitzer, Suozzi I would say has a 0.001% chance.  (the whole Fix Albany campaign has gotten him some decent statewide attention).  I was just using it as an example to show how stupid this scenario is since Weld has no chance.  Anyway as I stated in the past Suozzi i think should run for King's seat for Congress (he would win)

0% Chance!?!?

Let's take off the partisan goggles for a second here Smash.  As I have said before once the campaign begins I think the numbers are going to close up. Spitzer will probably win but Weld has quite a chance.

Oh yea, "Fix Albany". Spitzer's doing a great job with that one.

Anyway I'm not going to talk about this here anymore. I'll leave the discussion in the Governor's board.

[Smash255]

Put down the crackpipe.  I would say Nassau County Exeutive Tom Suoozzi has a better chance of knocking off Spitzer in the Primary (if he decides to run) than Weld does of knocking off Spitzer

You really can't be serious with that comment. Sure Spitzer will probably win(atleast from what it looks like now) but Suozzi has a better chance than Weld? Yea right...

We can continue this in the Governor's board if we must

Weld has a 0% chance of knocking off Spitzer, Suozzi I would say has a 0.001% chance.  (the whole Fix Albany campaign has gotten him some decent statewide attention).  I was just using it as an example to show how stupid this scenario is since Weld has no chance.  Anyway as I stated in the past Suozzi i think should run for King's seat for Congress (he would win)

0% Chance!?!?

Let's take off the partisan goggles for a second here Smash.  As I have said before once the campaign begins I think the numbers are going to close up. Spitzer will probably win but Weld has quite a chance.

Oh yea, "Fix Albany". Spitzer's doing a great job with that one.

Anyway I'm not going to talk about this here anymore. I'll leave the discussion in the Governor's board.

I will agree to move this to the Govenor's board, but llook at Spitzer's #'s, not just the margins, but his approvals & disapproval.  Granted I doubt it will stay in the +45 to +50 range & will probably get closer, but I believe he is pretty much unbeatable.

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Weld is down 44 points. That seems to be quite a problem for this scenario.

[Ben.]

talking about warner/bayh vs. allen/romney and claiming 'itll all come down to ohio' gets a bit boring after a while.

It wouldn't come down to Ohio, far more states would be in play, it could come down to OH, TN, WV, IN, MO even AR or KY... lets have a concersation about this...

[WalterMitty]

Weld is down 44 points. That seems to be quite a problem for this scenario.

no actually, that is the whole reason for this scenario.

if weld were to come from tha far behind to win, hed instantly be a national star and a front runner for the nomination.

jfern, i know you are awful excited about the possibility of ny electing an ideological relic like spitzer, but i think the empire state sdeserves progressive leadership.

[jokerman]

Ok, I'll use some imagination.

Spitzer's hit by a meteor one day while walking down the street.  That's the only way Weld could beat him.....if he's dead.

[YRABNNRM]

Ok, I'll use some imagination.

Spitzer's hit by a meteor one day while walking down the street.  That's the only way Weld could beat him.....if he's dead.

Wrong.

[Smash255]

Ok, I'll use some imagination.

Spitzer's hit by a meteor one day while walking down the street.  That's the only way Weld could beat him.....if he's dead.

Wrong.

I agree wrong because if it happens before Primary day Suozzi beats Weld