What would the white vote results be in each state, based upon these results?
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Calthrina950
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« on: August 31, 2017, 10:02:42 PM »
« edited: September 09, 2017, 02:48:52 PM by Calthrina950 »

Recently, I played the Campaign Trail game online, which as you know contains scenarios for 1844, 1860, 1896, 1916, 1948, 1960, 1968, 1976, 1988, 2000, 2012, and 2016. I played as Trump for 2016, seeking to do him in as much as possible, and ended up giving Hillary Clinton a landslide victory. I then wrote a scenario, based in an alternate timeline, on a fictional Democratic President ("William Rutherford") beating Trump and Pence, by the same margin, with the same states, and with the same results. Here are the links for the game and the scenario that is based on it:

Scenario: http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016
Campaign Trail Game: https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/game/528280

Now, I have a few demographic-related questions? Based upon this map, and these results, how would each demographic break down? How would the white vote look like? In which states would Trump still win the white vote? How would the breakdown among men and women as a whole look like? What about minorities? Or religious groups? Or educational groups? And what about regions of the country?

If anyone can take the time to answer these questions, I would greatly appreciate it.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2017, 11:51:55 AM »

Bumping this up to generate more attention.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »

Bumping this up one more time.....
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2017, 03:44:50 AM »

He only lost Alabama by 2 percent. I assume he still has the white vote there and some other south states
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2017, 05:40:08 PM »

He only lost Alabama by 2 percent. I assume he still has the white vote there and some other south states

That would seem reasonable. But what would be those other states? That's what I've been trying to figure out.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 10:23:26 PM »

Any other perspectives about the white vote by state? The only three states that I am certain about, in regards to Republicans still winning the white vote, are Wyoming, Oklahoma, and Alabama. What about the other southern states? What would the national breakdown of the white vote look like, to produce a 64-34 Democratic landslide? What about other demographics?
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 02:04:03 PM »

Bumping this up again.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2017, 02:49:16 PM »

One final bump.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 10:25:29 PM »

I don't really know about districts or anything, but I would assume that these states would give Trump the white vote even if he lost the state:

Alabama
Arkansas
maybe Georgia
Idaho
Kentucky
Nebraska (or at least a district)
maybe South Carolina
Tennessee

If you give him all those states, that would only be ten states total (I listed 8 and then the two he won) and it would still only bring him to 72 electoral votes
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2017, 07:46:30 PM »
« Edited: September 10, 2017, 07:57:30 PM by Calthrina950 »

I don't really know about districts or anything, but I would assume that these states would give Trump the white vote even if he lost the state:

Alabama
Arkansas
maybe Georgia
Idaho
Kentucky
Nebraska (or at least a district)
maybe South Carolina
Tennessee

If you give him all those states, that would only be ten states total (I listed 8 and then the two he won) and it would still only bring him to 72 electoral votes

I used the FiveThirty Eight demographics calculator, to determine what a Democratic victory with roughly 63.6% of the vote would look alike, and also keeping in mind the results of the Campaign Trail game. According to that calculator, Trump would carry the white vote in:

1) Wyoming
2) Oklahoma
3) Texas
4) Arkansas
5) Louisiana
6) Tennessee
7) Mississippi
8 ) Alabama
9) Georgia
10) South Carolina
11) North Carolina

Trump also wins the white vote in Nebraska's 3rd district.

I was surprised by North Carolina, considering that the Democrats get over 60% there, and I would have thought that Tennessee would have given its white vote to the Democrats also.  
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2017, 08:32:13 PM »

So pretty much the solid south and Wyoming
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2017, 09:46:09 PM »

So pretty much the solid south and Wyoming

Basically. Though in the scenario, the Democrat wins the white vote in Florida and Virginia, and in all of the "border states" (Kentucky, Missouri, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware), though West Virginia is very close, and carried only with a plurality of the total vote cost.

Any other comments, relating to some of my other questions?
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