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« on: September 06, 2017, 06:01:26 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2017, 06:13:15 PM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2017, 06:27:32 PM »

Nobody can save the world today.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 07:29:48 PM »

What does that precisely entail?

No modern Democrat could put together the same coalition FDR did, if that's what you mean.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 07:47:00 PM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

So Sanders with the kulaks as a stand-in for the Japanese?
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 07:48:37 PM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

I can tell you FDR did a whole lot to help my family back then
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 08:00:38 PM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

I can tell you FDR did a whole lot to help my family back then

I suppose they weren't Japanese, or African-American, or German-Americans? Or hurt by his consistent support for high taxes and labor unions?
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 08:04:18 PM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

I can tell you FDR did a whole lot to help my family back then

I suppose they weren't Japanese, or African-American, or German-Americans? Or hurt by his consistent support for high taxes and labor unions?

As a matter of fact they weren't. They were poor white farmers from Alabama. Grandfather went to work for TVA
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 09:15:12 PM »

What does that precisely entail?

No modern Democrat could put together the same coalition FDR did, if that's what you mean.

I meant as in who could an effective leader like FDR?
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2017, 09:17:05 PM »

We're too polarized now, so I'm going to say no one unless he comes back from the dead.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2017, 09:27:55 PM »

We're too polarized now, so I'm going to say no one unless he comes back from the dead.

Well if we weren't so polarized today in a hypothetical situtation lets say what Democrat could have the potential to be like a FDR?
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2017, 09:28:50 PM »

We're too polarized now, so I'm going to say no one unless he comes back from the dead.

Well if we weren't so polarized today in a hypothetical situtation lets say what Democrat could have the potential to be like a FDR?

Richard Trumka or Martin Luther King III.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2017, 09:34:46 PM »

What does that precisely entail?

No modern Democrat could put together the same coalition FDR did, if that's what you mean.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2017, 09:39:55 PM »

For a while, I think John Edwards could've, but obviously...
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2017, 10:23:40 PM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

"weak"? The man managed to stay alive WITH POLIO during almost 13 years of being president, in one of the most stressful times to be president.

I'll give you the internment thing because that's genuinely awful, and I'd argue the "inefficient" point with the New Deal.
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2017, 02:06:40 AM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

"weak"? The man managed to stay alive WITH POLIO during almost 13 years of being president, in one of the most stressful times to be president.

I'll give you the internment thing because that's genuinely awful, and I'd argue the "inefficient" point with the New Deal.

This. FDR has been thr single most competent and efficient President in this history of the US, issuing sweeping reforms and successfully getting his country through two world-shattering crises, all of this with his sickness.
No Democrat today can emulate him.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2017, 04:44:08 AM »

Regretfully - no one is even close. American politics degraded heavily in the last decades....
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2017, 07:14:10 AM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

"weak"? The man managed to stay alive WITH POLIO during almost 13 years of being president, in one of the most stressful times to be president.

I'll give you the internment thing because that's genuinely awful, and I'd argue the "inefficient" point with the New Deal.

This. FDR has been thr single most competent and efficient President in this history of the US, issuing sweeping reforms and successfully getting his country through two world-shattering crises, all of this with his sickness.
No Democrat today can emulate him.

I apologize, but romanticization of history is contrary to every principle I possess, and that's why statements like these bother me. Sure, he "helped" people, as long as you weren't black, or Asian, or Native, or a banker, or a small business owner, or a Jew, or a refugee.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2017, 08:40:00 AM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

"weak"? The man managed to stay alive WITH POLIO during almost 13 years of being president, in one of the most stressful times to be president.

I'll give you the internment thing because that's genuinely awful, and I'd argue the "inefficient" point with the New Deal.

This. FDR has been thr single most competent and efficient President in this history of the US, issuing sweeping reforms and successfully getting his country through two world-shattering crises, all of this with his sickness.
No Democrat today can emulate him.

I apologize, but romanticization of history is contrary to every principle I possess, and that's why statements like these bother me. Sure, he "helped" people, as long as you weren't black, or Asian, or Native, or a banker, or a small business owner, or a Jew, or a refugee.

As a whole, he and WWII got us out of the Great Depression.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2017, 09:02:53 AM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

I can tell you FDR did a whole lot to help my family back then

I suppose they weren't Japanese, or African-American, or German-Americans? Or hurt by his consistent support for high taxes and labor unions?

As a matter of fact they weren't. They were poor white farmers from Alabama. Grandfather went to work for TVA

You turned out a lot more conservative than Grandpa!
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2017, 09:29:39 AM »

An elderly, weak man who launches the internment of an entire group of people and inefficiently but massively expands the welfare system?

I can tell you FDR did a whole lot to help my family back then

I suppose they weren't Japanese, or African-American, or German-Americans? Or hurt by his consistent support for high taxes and labor unions?

As a matter of fact they weren't. They were poor white farmers from Alabama. Grandfather went to work for TVA

You turned out a lot more conservative than Grandpa!

Grandpa did stay a Dem the rest of his life! Wink
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2017, 11:20:54 AM »

No one. No Republican can do what Reagan did either.
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2017, 11:27:48 AM »

It's time to stop looking at the past.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2017, 11:30:04 AM »

Only Mark Zuckerberg (literally normal)
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2017, 11:34:41 AM »

Reagan didn't exactly try to be like Coolidge or McKinley to the T ya' know!
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