HRC Book Megathread - HRC - "No absolution for women who didn't vote for me"

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“The best thing she could do is disappear,” said one former Clinton fundraiser and surrogate who played an active role at the convention. “She’s doing harm to all of us because of her own selfishness. Honestly, I wish she’d just shut the f--- up and go away.”“None of this is good for the party,” said one former Obama aide. “It’s the Hillary Show, 100 percent. A lot of us are scratching our heads and wondering what she’s trying to do. It’s certainly not helpful.”

“One person has been out in the country, almost without stopping, since the election rallying people to defend ObamaCare, against tax cuts for the wealthy and for a $15 minimum wage. The other person, while Trump has been ripping the country apart, has been taking long walks in the woods, drinking chardonnay, hobnobbing with celebrities and writing a book that entirely ignores the failure of the party establishment over a decade or two. People can choose which kind of party they prefer.”

“The morning after the election I wrote on Facebook that we needed to all own our part and focus on the road ahead,” said Democratic strategist Steve Schale, who attempted to draft Biden into the 2016 race. “I still believe this, and the sooner we stop talking about 2016, all of us on my side, and get to work on the real organizing required for 2018, the better off we will be not only in the midterm elections, but also in 2020.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/349548-clintons-score-settling-frustrates-democrats

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Democrats dread Hillary's book tour

Alums of her Brooklyn headquarters who were miserable even when they thought she was winning tend to greet the topic with, “Oh, God,” “I can’t handle it,” and “the final torture.” Political reporters gripe privately (and on Twitter) about yet another return to the campaign that will never end. Campaign operatives don't want the distraction, just as they head into another election season. And members of Congress from both parties want the focus on an agenda that’s getting more complicated by the week.

But with a new NBC News poll showing her approval rating at 30 percent, the lowest recorded for her, Clinton kicks it off on Tuesday with a signing at the Union Square Barnes & Noble in New York. In a tweet late Tuesday night, Huffman pleaded with Clinton to stop blaming Sanders for her loss, as she partly does in the book, according to excerpts that leaked ahead of its release. Huffman said the tweet had gotten a lot of "likes" from his colleagues — albeit in private conversations with him.

Asked whether she was excited about Clinton’s book tour, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), one of Republicans’ top 2018 targets, responded first with, “Beg your pardon?” Asked again, she started shaking her head, walking away. “I’ve always been a looking forward kind of a guy,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), asked the same question on Wednesday. “I think I’ll leave it at that.”

McCain pointed out that he didn’t write a book after losing the 2008 presidential race. “I respect and admire and am a friend of Hillary’s,” he said. “But with these kind of things that happen in life, you’ve got to move on. You’ve got to quickly move on.” Republicans and Sanders-aligned Democrats quickly started mocking the high cost of entry to some events — “VIP Platinum” tickets to her Toronto stop, for example, run up to $3,000 and include a meet-and-greet — that reminds them of the paid speech controversy that dogged her throughout the campaign.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/hillary-clinton-book-tour-democrats-242419

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Clinton Confirms That Democrats Will Relitigate the 2016 Primary Until the Sun Swallows the Earth

A Twitter personality and former Hillary Clinton adviser named Peter Daou launched a website called "Verrit," which bills itself as "Media for the 65.8 Million," which is the number of people who voted for Clinton in 2016. According to its founder, Veritt exists to verify cold, hard facts in our era of fake news and Breitbart-ian propaganda.

@HillaryClinton
I'm excited to sign up for @Verrit, a media platform for the 65.8 million! Will you join me and sign up too? https://verrit.com/sixty-five-point-eight-million …

Here's the kind of "fact" Verrit verifies -
@verrit Bernie Sanders and the Mainstream Media Helped Put Trump in the White House

So, that is the beef in a nutshell! The good news is that new activist groups, new candidates, and an increasingly aggressive national message have already started to bridge the divide between the two camps in a constructive way. The bad news is that there won't truly be any final resolution and healing of the Democratic Party's 2016 wounds until the moment polls close on the West Coast on Nov. 3, 2020. And at that point, things might only just be getting started.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/06/hillary_clinton_s_book_unsettles_scores_from_2016.html

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All this gossip and backbiting just illustrates is how anti-Clinton the press has always been. The ironic thing is, they complain at getting insulted by Trump, yet they are the ones who put him in office.

Haha, Is this a joke or something? Are you trying to be funny? Hillary received the most 1 sides coverage that was possible.

And then after coming with idiotic comments in the book. This is what CNN published -

Hillary Clinton is right about Bernie Sanders
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/05/opinions/hillary-clinton-book-bernie-sanders-filipovic/index.html

And I can post about WaPo & NYT as well. WaPo editor explicitly bashed Sanders saying because of him HRC was forced to oppose TPP & other "populist" ideas. WaPo is very angry because Sanders forced Clinton to the left & not throw workers under the bus.

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All this gossip and backbiting just illustrates is how anti-Clinton the press has always been. The ironic thing is, they complain at getting insulted by Trump, yet they are the ones who put him in office.

Haha, Is this a joke or something? Are you trying to be funny? Hillary received the most 1 sides coverage that was possible.

And then after coming with idiotic comments in the book. This is what CNN published -

Hillary Clinton is right about Bernie Sanders
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/05/opinions/hillary-clinton-book-bernie-sanders-filipovic/index.html

And I can post about WaPo & NYT as well. WaPo editor explicitly bashed Sanders saying because of him HRC was forced to oppose TPP & other "populist" ideas. WaPo is very angry because Sanders forced Clinton to the left & not throw workers under the bus.

Totally self-inflicted. This is what she wanted. She wanted a people, person driver attack based discussion. She ran the most personal, attack minded, negative campaign in recent times. I mean you have to be ashamed when Trump speaks more about policies than you. Multiple research shows her campaigns & ads were devoid of any issues, ideology, policies.

When you have that kind of campaign, you will have emails & Bill in there. She already had the media to her dirty work but she still wanted to go into the mud, then this is what you get - Emails n all that.

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Clinton wanted to go Nuclear on Comey after Comey's initial comments about her being careless

Clinton wrote that she wanted to “hit back hard” at Comey for calling her “extremely careless” for using a private email server as secretary of State but that her campaign advised her against it, according to excerpts of the book published by The Daily Beast Wednesday. “My first instinct was that my campaign should hit back hard and explain to the public that Comey had badly overstepped his bounds — the same argument [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein would make months after the election,” Clinton wrote.

“That might have blunted the political damage and made Comey think twice before breaking protocol again a few months later. My team raised concerns with that kind of confrontational approach.“In the end, we decided it would be better to just let it go and try to move on. Looking back, that was a mistake.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/349569-clinton-book-not-going-after-comey-was-a-mistake

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All this gossip and backbiting just illustrates is how anti-Clinton the press has always been. The ironic thing is, they complain at getting insulted by Trump, yet they are the ones who put him in office.

Haha, Is this a joke or something? Are you trying to be funny? Hillary received the most 1 sides coverage that was possible.

And then after coming with idiotic comments in the book. This is what CNN published -

Hillary Clinton is right about Bernie Sanders
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/05/opinions/hillary-clinton-book-bernie-sanders-filipovic/index.html

And I can post about WaPo & NYT as well. WaPo editor explicitly bashed Sanders saying because of him HRC was forced to oppose TPP & other "populist" ideas. WaPo is very angry because Sanders forced Clinton to the left & not throw workers under the bus.

Totally self-inflicted. This is what she wanted. She wanted a people, person driver attack based discussion. She ran the most personal, attack minded, negative campaign in recent times. I mean you have to be ashamed when Trump speaks more about policies than you. Multiple research shows her campaigns & ads were devoid of any issues, ideology, policies.

When you have that kind of campaign, you will have emails & Bill in there. She already had the media to her dirty work but she still wanted to go into the mud, then this is what you get - Emails n all that.

Agreed. In retrospect was her own fault. She sucked at answering questions about he email server, which made the problem much, much worse. She could at very least given a public speech apologizing for the email server, but she never even did that.

Lol. It's not Hillary's fault the media gave Trump $2 billion in free coverage while relentlessly hammering Clinton on her email server for 18 months.

Hillary's email was her doing. She opened her server, send classified info & then lied about in on TV. If you want to talk about hammering Clinton, the media hammered Trump too. They both had a lot of negative publicity (Trump even more with every buffoon like statement because he is a reality TV guy). If there is 1 person who should complain about the media, it should be Sanders, who got shut out completely before the Iowa Caucus. The WaPo ran 16 negative stories a day over Bernie.

The media supported HRC over Trump & over Sanders & unrealistically painted Clinton. The NYT, WaPo & every single god damn big media house endorsed her & gave massive favorable coverage to her. In the Primaries vs Sanders, HRC got endorsement from every media company bar 1 in Seattle.

This is just ridiculous conspiracy theories, but you wouldn't admit that you are wrong as then admit you made a terrible choice in 2016 & then you have to take some blame for Trump.

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Jimmy Kimmel: Clinton's Book Is Like Reading About The Titanic From The Ocean Floor

“I was just thinking to myself this morning, ‘I would love to relive that magical election of 2016,'” he began. “It’s like reading a book about why the Titanic sank while you’re sitting at the bottom of the ocean.”

He then brought up Clinton’s attacks on her primary rival Bernie Sanders and wondered why a non-Democrat like him would run for the Democratic nomination. “It’s a very good question… that should have been asked two years ago,” Kimmel said. “I guess it didn’t come up til now.” Kimmel then showed a ‘trailer’ for her book “It’s That F**ker Bernie’s Fault,” which promotes the retelling of her “astonishing defeat” and why “despite overwhelming odds, everything collapsed.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/kimmel-hillarys-book-is-like-reading-about-the-titanic-while-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean/

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All this gossip and backbiting just illustrates is how anti-Clinton the press has always been. The ironic thing is, they complain at getting insulted by Trump, yet they are the ones who put him in office.

Haha, Is this a joke or something? Are you trying to be funny? Hillary received the most 1 sides coverage that was possible.

And then after coming with idiotic comments in the book. This is what CNN published -

Hillary Clinton is right about Bernie Sanders
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/05/opinions/hillary-clinton-book-bernie-sanders-filipovic/index.html

And I can post about WaPo & NYT as well. WaPo editor explicitly bashed Sanders saying because of him HRC was forced to oppose TPP & other "populist" ideas. WaPo is very angry because Sanders forced Clinton to the left & not throw workers under the bus.

Totally self-inflicted. This is what she wanted. She wanted a people, person driver attack based discussion. She ran the most personal, attack minded, negative campaign in recent times. I mean you have to be ashamed when Trump speaks more about policies than you. Multiple research shows her campaigns & ads were devoid of any issues, ideology, policies.

When you have that kind of campaign, you will have emails & Bill in there. She already had the media to her dirty work but she still wanted to go into the mud, then this is what you get - Emails n all that.

Agreed. In retrospect was her own fault. She sucked at answering questions about he email server, which made the problem much, much worse. She could at very least given a public speech apologizing for the email server, but she never even did that.

Lol. It's not Hillary's fault the media gave Trump $2 billion in free coverage while relentlessly hammering Clinton on her email server for 18 months.

Hillary's email was her doing. She opened her server, send classified info & then lied about in on TV. If you want to talk about hammering Clinton, the media hammered Trump too. They both had a lot of negative publicity (Trump even more with every buffoon like statement because he is a reality TV guy). If there is 1 person who should complain about the media, it should be Sanders, who got shut out completely before the Iowa Caucus. The WaPo ran 16 negative stories a day over Bernie.

The media supported HRC over Trump & over Sanders & unrealistically painted Clinton. The NYT, WaPo & every single god damn big media house endorsed her & gave massive favorable coverage to her. In the Primaries vs Sanders, HRC got endorsement from every media company bar 1 in Seattle.

This is just ridiculous conspiracy theories, but you wouldn't admit that you are wrong as then admit you made a terrible choice in 2016 & then you have to take some blame for Trump.

Lol. An endorsement means nothing. In fact, it can be worse than nothing because it creates the impression an outlet is pro-Hillary when they are anti-Hillary. The NY Times "endorsed" Clinton but ran devastating articles attacking her and paired up with Breitbart for exclusive access to an anti-Clinton hit piece.

https://thinkprogress.org/steve-bannon-new-york-times-washington-post-clinton-cash-d59d6492546/

The Ny Times also "endorsed" Hillary in 2008 when the paper was slobbering all over Obama. They ran one op-ed praising Hillary, and Maureen Dowd wrote scathing attacks on Hillary every week.

You are trying to justify this through Nira Tanden's Thinkprogress (saying NYT once praised Bannon) which has produced multiple fake news, fake data & is a hack organization for Hillary Clinton. I can't debate conspiracy theories. So "Yes", just to end this crazy discussion, the media was totally biased against Clinton & didn't want President Clinton. They supported Sanders & then Trump & wanted to show that they supported Clinton to "trick people."

Keep telling yourself because otherwise (like Trump voters in 2016) you have to admit you made a mistake.

Now, I am sure there are other issues (except the media) to discuss in this great Clinton book.

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Jimmy Kimmel: Clinton's Book Is Like Reading About The Titanic From The Ocean Floor

“I was just thinking to myself this morning, ‘I would love to relive that magical election of 2016,'” he began. “It’s like reading a book about why the Titanic sank while you’re sitting at the bottom of the ocean.”

He then brought up Clinton’s attacks on her primary rival Bernie Sanders and wondered why a non-Democrat like him would run for the Democratic nomination. “It’s a very good question… that should have been asked two years ago,” Kimmel said. “I guess it didn’t come up til now.” Kimmel then showed a ‘trailer’ for her book “It’s That F**ker Bernie’s Fault,” which promotes the retelling of her “astonishing defeat” and why “despite overwhelming odds, everything collapsed.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/kimmel-hillarys-book-is-like-reading-about-the-titanic-while-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean/

Lol. So according to the male dominated media the only one who did anything wrong in 2016 was the woman in the story and nothing bad can be said about anyone else. Got it.

Agreed. It the evil comedians & the sexist male dominated media criticizing the woman candidate. BTW most of HRC supporters in the media currently supporting her (in CNN & others) are men while the women panelists are the one criticizing her. The NNU head who supported Bernie is a woman as is Nina Turner who has criticized this but I guess they don't qualify as "women" because they supported Bernie.

Clinton writes a book, bashes & blames everyone for losing to "freaking Trump" & if people criticize her back, they are sexists & it is because she is a woman. Wow !

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Seth Meyers to Hillary Clinton - Lay off Bernie Sanders

"Hey! Hillary Clinton, don’t blame Bernie because Donald Trump called you names,” Meyers said Wednesday night. “I promise you he was going to do that anyway. It’s not like Trump watched Bernie at the debates and thought, ‘Criticizing Hillary? That just might work!’ And hey. You think Trump needed Bernie’s permission to be an asshole? Assholes don’t need permission. That’s what makes them assholes.”

“He didn’t tell you not to go to Wisconsin. He didn’t tell you to do paid speeches to Wall Street. And he didn’t write this terrible joke for you,” Meyers said, rolling a clip of Clinton stiltedly quipping, "I don’t know who created Pokémon Go, but I’m trying to figure out how we get them to have Pokémon Go to the Polls.” “And hey. We are living through a very dark time in America,” Meyers added, “but there is also an unprecedented opportunity to bring Democrats and liberals together in a stand against the hate and incompetence in Washington. The best way to do this is to get the people who voted for you and the people who voted for Bernie on the same page. This isn’t the time to complain because Senator Woodstock didn’t roll over for you. Hey, if anything, he helped make you a better candidate—you know, the candidate who beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/09/hillary-clinton-what-happened-bernie-sanders-seth-meyers-late-night

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Sanders tells Clinton to stop arguing about 2016 & asks for her help & support in the fight against Trump

Stephen Colbert asked tonight’s Late Show guest, Sen. Bernie Sanders what he would like to ask upcoming show guest Hillary Clinton.“We have got to think ‘Going Forward’,” Sanders told Colbert in response. “I would like her to join us in the fight for a Medicare-for-all single payer system, in taking on the fossil fuel industry so we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel and move toward sustainable energy.

“We need her help to go forward. Let’s not keep arguing about 2016,” Sanders suggested. “Let’s get together, take on Trump’s desire to divide us up. Let’s go forward with a progressive agenda. “Ask her if she will do that,” Sanders said as Colbert’s crowd expressed wild enthusiasm for the idea.

http://deadline.com/2017/09/bernie-sanders-stephen-colbert-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-video-1202164040/

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Hillary Clinton said Thursday that she was devastated and drained after her loss to Donald Trump in 2016, but regained her strength by relying on a mix of prayer, yoga and "my fair share of Chardonnay." "I relied on several tools, one of which was prayer, and I was lifted up and blessed by a lot of people who sent me prayers, sent me spiritual readings," she said. "I also had the support of my family. ... My friends rallied around and were so supportive. I did some yoga. Tried alternative nostril breathing." And, in a light moment, Clinton added, "Yes, I had my fair share of Chardonnay."

"We were in the back seat of our car on the way back to our home," she said. "I couldn't speak, I couldn't really have any internal resources left." She added: "Through it all, my faith was really holding me together in a very central way. It gave me a lot of courage to get up and keep going."

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/hillary-clinton-book-event/index.html

She is behaving as if someone close to her died & her whole life has been shattered & reduced to nothing when she lost the Presidency.

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Shadows' seemingly pathological lack of empathy for Hillary Clinton knows no bounds.

I hear he doesn't have a lot of empathy for Augusto Pinochet, either.

Hillary=/=Pinochet

Hillary & Pinochet aren't the same. I also don't subscribe to Jimmy Dore's rhetoric that Hillary = Trump in most issues. Hillary is a woman who has faced a lot of unnecessary crap & shi* thrown her way by Fox & the right wing conspiracy theorists including stuff like Pizzagate which was despicable shi*. And the never ending ridiculous GOP investigations into everything frivolous & the demonizing of her.

Her husband has also put her through a lot of terrible situations which no-one deserves. So, I do have empathy for her in that regard. However, people need to face honest criticisms, especially if they are in the political life. She lost to freaking Trump due to her own problems & is still making excuses & is throwing dirt at honest people who are fighting Trump.

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Hillary's former Counselor & surrogate goes on Fox & lies about Sanders, saying Bernie wanted to nationalize the oil, gas, telecom & banks. And then says "Shame on you Bernie" because apparently he didn't campaign hard enough for Hillary. Wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl34DKgCM_8

I guess the knives are out for Bernie from the Clinton wing. He is not the only one. Surrogates after surrogates are going on TV & are viciously attacking Bernie.

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Trump hits new low in public opinion — but he's still beating Hillary Clinton


The number of Americans who say they hold positive views of President Donald Trump has dropped to its lowest point since his inauguration, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Wednesday. But the survey offered Trump at least one potential bit of solace: He’s still beating Hillary Clinton.

Just 36 percent of those reached by pollsters said they have either very or somewhat positive feelings about Trump, 2 points lower than in the poll’s June iteration. But at 36 percent, Trump still finished 6 points higher than Clinton, his 2016 Democratic opponent, about whom just 30 percent of respondents said they feel either very or somewhat positive.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/trump-public-opinion-better-than-hillary-clinton-242398

Clinton's approval crashes to 30%, 6% less than Trump's. Trump is beating Clinton by 6% in approvals

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Hillary Clinton Says She ‘Maybe Missed a Few Chances’ During Presidential Campaign

“People say, ‘Well, we don’t know her’ – and I think my composure, which I have developed over years being in the public eye – has well equipped me for being a leader, because you should keep your cool, and you should be steady and predictable. But I think in this time we’re in, particularly in this campaign, you know, maybe I missed a few chances,” Clinton said.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hillary-clinton-jane-pauley-cbs-evening-news-1202552684/

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Mr Sanders also added a jibe: “Secretary Clinton ran against the most unpopular candidate in this history of this country and she still lost. “But our job now is not to go backwards, it is to go forwards.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-criticism-donald-trump-lost-to-unpopular-candidate-a7936071.html

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Bernie lost the primary by 3.5 million votes and Clinton won the popular vote over Trump by 2.8 million. Just tossing that out there.

That is fake news. You have to stop lying about this. Democratic Primaries do not record votes of all states so that is a false stat.

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Hillary Clinton’s reveals why she lost the US election

“Let's set the record straight: we always knew that the industrial Midwest was crucial to our success, just as it had been for Democrats for decades, and contrary to the popular narrative, we didn't ignore those states," she wrote. She also owns up to other mistakes, saying her comment about putting coal miners out of business was the mistake "I regret the most" and that her paid speeches to Wall Street banks were bad "optics".

After all the ridiculous accusations, it is good to see that Clinton accepts atleast some of her faults. How she still doesn't think that she ignored the Mid-West is beyond me when she didn't even visit WI & only visited MI like 3-4 days before the GE when polls showed her falling big.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/09/11/10/52/hillary-clinton-reveals-why-she-lost-us-election-trump-president-white-house

Steve Bannon: 'Hillary Clinton's not very bright' for ignoring populism in American politics

"Hillary Clinton's not very bright," Bannon told Charlie Rose during an interview for CBS' "60 Minutes," though his comments were not aired Sunday as part of the program. "She doesn't have a grasp on what's important and what's not, and that's essential in a leader," he added. "The only question before us: Is it going to be a left-wing populism or a right-wing populism?" Bannon said. "And that is the question that will be answered in 2020."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/steve-bannon-hillary-clintons-not-very-bright-for-ignoring-populism-in-american-politics/article/2633975

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Bernie lost the primary by 3.5 million votes and Clinton won the popular vote over Trump by 2.8 million. Just tossing that out there.

That is fake news. You have to stop lying about this. Democratic Primaries do not record votes of all states so that is a false stat.

Lol. Low turnout caucuses do not change that 3.5 million number by that much.

Either way, it is not 3.5M - And hence "FAKE NEWS". Especially when 1 candidate wins most of the caucuses, even in large states like WA.

Dem Nomination is not won by the PV. If that is the case, it should be switched to primaries for all contests & the PV should be counted. It is decided by Delegates. Apparently, Clinton won more PV for primaries in 2008 but Obama won the nomination convincingly delegate wise.

Clinton had around 54% of the pledged delegates. The 3.5M is an incorrect number.

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Bernie lost the primary by 3.5 million votes and Clinton won the popular vote over Trump by 2.8 million. Just tossing that out there.

That is fake news. You have to stop lying about this. Democratic Primaries do not record votes of all states so that is a false stat.

Lol. Low turnout caucuses do not change that 3.5 million number by that much.

Either way, it is not 3.5M - And hence "FAKE NEWS". Especially when 1 candidate wins most of the caucuses, even in large states like WA.

Dem Nomination is not won by the PV. If that is the case, it should be switched to primaries for all contests & the PV should be counted. It is decided by Delegates. Apparently, Clinton won more PV for primaries in 2008 but Obama won the nomination convincingly delegate wise.

Clinton had around 54% of the pledged delegates. The 3.5M is an incorrect number.

Hillary won the WA primary.

WA had a primary? Didn't they just have a caucus?

Also, Shadows, Sanders still got beaten in the popular vote.

Absolutely. And that is a fair thing to say. And she won convincingly. With & even without any DNC bias, the black vote polarization was too big for Sanders to overcome.

But the 3.5M Vote number is not accurate. No-one knows what that is, but in many millions for sure.

Bernie lost the primary by 3.5 million votes and Clinton won the popular vote over Trump by 2.8 million. Just tossing that out there.

That is fake news. You have to stop lying about this. Democratic Primaries do not record votes of all states so that is a false stat.

Lol. Low turnout caucuses do not change that 3.5 million number by that much.

Either way, it is not 3.5M - And hence "FAKE NEWS". Especially when 1 candidate wins most of the caucuses, even in large states like WA.

Dem Nomination is not won by the PV. If that is the case, it should be switched to primaries for all contests & the PV should be counted. It is decided by Delegates. Apparently, Clinton won more PV for primaries in 2008 but Obama won the nomination convincingly delegate wise.

Clinton had around 54% of the pledged delegates. The 3.5M is an incorrect number.

Hillary won the WA primary.

There was no primary in WA related to the Dem nomination or delegate selection. So that is again fake news. (Ceremonial Primaries = Junk)

The idea that Shadows is anything more then a propaganda-bot trying to cause conflict on the left is ridiculous.

Thank your for your brilliant contribution to this thread by posting such an intellectual comment. Now, if you are capable of saying anything intelligent to contribute, you are welcome.

You could praise some aspects of the Clinton book instead of bashing me. That sounds more constructive.

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Clinton in new CBS Interview -

Bernie supporters are Bernie-bros, sexists, misogynists harassing Clinton supporters online ( Correct the Record 1M $ spending ??). She said she beat Bernie in a landslide but Bernie didn't work as hard as she did for Obama. (54%-46% Pledged Delegates & 22 state loss is the new definition of Landslide).

She also said that Bernie doesn't disown such sexist supporters who harass people continually or say anything about attacks on one of her favorite Democrat, Kamala Harris by the left. She asks Bernie to go away if he wouldn't support Democrats fully.

Stands by her deplorable comments . She says she didn't energize or demonize or offend any voters. Says those people were already gone, it was a "Political gift" & had no bearing on the race.

And the usual "Comey" comments (which she may/may not be right). On the bright side, she added that "she maybe made some mistakes too"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62A0vlWUw0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csWcVWZYJeo

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Stands by her deplorable comments . She says she didn't energize or demonize or offend any voters. Says those people were already gone, it was not a "Political gift" & had no bearing on the race.

She literally said "I'm sorry I gave them a political gift of any kind".

Confirmed that you will lie just to perpetuate your narrative that HRC is on a revenge tour.

Wait. I thought I wrote "It was a political gift" (*Anyways Typo - Corrected). The point is that she said it had no bearing no the race whatsoever despite it being a political gift. Personally, I have felt she was right about the deplorable thing but it was a really stupid thing to say & harmed her.

Anyways, you are in your own crazy Hillary-fandom world & argue about this. You can join Hillary in asking Bernie to go away, calling his supporters sexists & saying he encourages that.

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Hillary sounds like she's going to endorse Kamala Harris. Attacks Bernie bros for criticizing her.

She said "one of her favorites." Hillary has a lot of leverage now & her approvals surely would bounce back from this pathetic 30%. But she will go to war with Sanders it seems.  There will be an endorsement (& it may not be Kamala) & the endorsement will go to anyone with the best chance of beating Sanders (or from his wing) & it will a bloody primary.

And Sanders @ 75 went to 14 rallies in 12 states in both coasts in the last 7 days. Hillary was promised the SoS role, Sanders got nothing & neither did he ask for anything. Sanders did more rallies for Hillary than anyone not named Clinton.

Hopefully it ends here. Sanders will likely not respond. But if she keeps attacking on & on, then he will have a go & ultimately it will get ugly.