What wing of the Democratic party would Grover Cleveland be today
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« on: September 07, 2017, 06:32:05 PM »

I know a lot of you say he would be a Republican today, but if he stayed loyal to the Democrats what kind of Democrat would he be today?
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 06:37:05 PM »

He would be part of the Libertarian party
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2017, 06:38:28 PM »

The Bourbon wing
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 06:40:20 PM »
« Edited: September 07, 2017, 06:48:58 PM by darklordoftech »

I agree with Old School Republican, but if he remained a Democrat, he'd be a Third Way/New/Clintonian Democrat for sure. In fact, the Bryanites said the same things about Cleveland that the Berniecrats said about the Clintons. A parallel between the Gilded Age and the present that I find interesting that in the Gilded Age, there was the conflict between the Bourbans and the Populists, and today there's the conflict between the Third Way Democrats and the Berniecrats. The Bourban faction that Cleveland lead was considered to be centrist at the time.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2017, 06:46:06 PM »

A dead one.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 06:57:28 PM »

I agree with Old School Republican, but if he remained a Democrat, he'd be a Third Way/New/Clintonian Democrat for sure. In fact, the Bryanites said the same things about Cleveland that the Berniecrats said about the Clintons. A parallel between the Gilded Age and the present that I find interesting that in the Gilded Age, there was the conflict between the Bourbans and the Populists, and today there's the conflict between the Third Way Democrats and the Berniecrats. The Bourban faction that Cleveland lead was considered to be centrist at the time.

But he would be an honest Clintonian Democrat, if there is such a thing
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 07:48:53 PM »


Lots of notable politicians join the Libertarian Party rather than fight for a faction of one of the two major parties, so you bring up an excellent point!
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2017, 08:29:54 PM »

Somewhere between Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Ron Wyden, Andrew Cuomo, and Sam Nunn.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2017, 08:32:08 PM »


Lots of notable politicians join the Libertarian Party rather than fight for a faction of one of the two major parties, so you bring up an excellent point!

Yes, the personality types who typically make it to the White House are the types to let themselves rot in obscurity as third party perennial candidates.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2017, 09:01:31 PM »



HILLARY IS A BOURBON DEMOCRAT!1!1
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 09:09:57 PM »


This. He would be much more Fiscally and Socially Conservative then any Third Way Democrat is today. If he were around today he would either join another party like the libertarian's (but that is unlikely), join the Republican Party, or just become a very conservative democrat.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 10:34:00 PM »

Obviously he'd be a total neoliberal on economic issues. However, he wouldn't be as big a hawk as most of the establishment.
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 12:08:37 AM »

He'd be of the Paul/Amash camp of the GOP most likely.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 01:26:30 AM »


There's a reason Ron Paul thinks he was a great president.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 02:14:18 AM »


There's a reason Ron Paul thinks he was a great president.
Cleveland and Paul even agree on what metal should be used as the basis for the dollar.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2017, 09:04:10 AM »

Let's be careful assuming that a New York Democrat in the late 1800s and a Kentucky Republican in the 21st Century share the same ideology because they supported the same policies.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2017, 11:15:31 AM »

Today he'd be a Republican but assuming he would be a Democrat Cleveland would be a Blue Dog Democrat
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2017, 11:23:58 AM »

My wing.
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2017, 12:03:24 PM »

Let's be careful assuming that a New York Democrat in the late 1800s and a Kentucky Republican in the 21st Century share the same ideology because they supported the same policies.


Except you can argue ideology wise Paul is not a Kentucky republican just like his dad was not a Texas republican .


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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2017, 06:54:59 PM »

Let's be careful assuming that a New York Democrat in the late 1800s and a Kentucky Republican in the 21st Century share the same ideology because they supported the same policies.


Except you can argue ideology wise Paul is not a Kentucky republican just like his dad was not a Texas republican .

Indeed. There's a reason he ran behind Trump even though he didn't have great competition or corruption as an albatross [like Roy Blunt].
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2017, 11:07:59 PM »

Let's be careful assuming that a New York Democrat in the late 1800s and a Kentucky Republican in the 21st Century share the same ideology because they supported the same policies.


Except you can argue ideology wise Paul is not a Kentucky republican just like his dad was not a Texas republican .

Indeed. There's a reason he ran behind Trump even though he didn't have great competition or corruption as an albatross [like Roy Blunt].

Um... Jim Gray is a very, very good fit for Kentucky.
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