Cory Booker & Jeff Merkley announce support for Bernie's Medicare for all

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The idea that healthcare is a right is the greatest affront to individual liberty since slavery.

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Human rights protect individuals from others, and are not related to tangible goods or services. Nobody is entitled to the property or labor of others without compensation. Everyone has the right to life, but that does not mean a right to food, water, shelter, or healthcare, since all of those are tangible goods and services that belong to someone.

That does not mean, that as a civilized society that believes in human rights, (a relatively modern concept that was not recognized for most of human history) we do not have certain responsibilities towards those who cannot provide for themselves, but collective obligations are not human rights.

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Sherrod :/

How dare Sherrod be pragmatic.

When Cory Booker is being less "pragmatic" than you, you're on the wrong side.

Cory Booker is attaching his name to a bill that has zero chance of passing. Brown, to his credit, is at least working on something remotely feasible in the foreseeable future.

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But Hillary...

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Kaine: Has ruled out supporting the bill, says he prefers "choice in the marketplace" (Gag me)

FF

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Human rights protect individuals from others, and are not related to tangible goods or services. Nobody is entitled to the property or labor of others without compensation. Everyone has the right to life, but that does not mean a right to food, water, shelter, or healthcare, since all of those are tangible goods and services that belong to someone.

That does not mean, that as a civilized society that believes in human rights, (a relatively modern concept that was not recognized for most of human history) we do not have certain responsibilities towards those who cannot provide for themselves, but collective obligations are not human rights.

I checked OED and it defines 'right' as "A moral or legal entitlement to have or do something". Nothing about whatever nonsense you've asserted without any backing. I can define a pig to mean an animal with five legs, doesn't make it true.

And it says nothing about tangible goods or services, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. Life, freedom, and citizenship are "things" that all individuals are entitled to, but not tangible things like food or drugs. All goods and services belong to someone, and if you believe in property rights, you cannot simultaneously believe that people have a birthright to the goods and services of others without compensation.