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« on: September 12, 2017, 09:29:12 AM »

What's the probability that she is offered, and accepts, a primetime speaking slot?

On the one hand, she's a high profile member of the party.  On the other hand, she's unpopular, more unpopular now than she was last year, and it's not clear to what extent that's going to change in the next three years.

And to what extent does it depend on who the presidential nominee is?  I'm assuming that she'd be more likely to speak at a convention nominating Kamala Harris than one nominating Bernie Sanders, for example.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 12:56:08 PM »

75%, unless it's Bernie, then it's 15%.
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2017, 01:02:39 PM »

She'll be there, barring more unsavory and serious allegations that can be substantiated.
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 01:29:18 PM »

90%. Even if Sanders will be there, he will give Clinton the chance to speak no matter how ugly she makes it. Sanders is not vindictive or an egoist about this.

As long as she doesn't descend to blatant personal attacks in 2020...I think Dems will be united. Atleast for the SC, which will be lost for generations. 2020 is possibly the biggest election in decades..
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 01:47:18 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 01:49:57 PM »

Did Kerry speak in 2008? I'm forgetting.

I know Gore spoke in 2004.
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 01:57:05 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

It would not be wrong for her to speak in such an important spot at the convention for the reason listed above.  She's a lot more unpopular than Gore was, however, and Gore had/has more of a claim of "being robbed" than Hillary.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 02:04:05 PM »

Did Kerry speak in 2008? I'm forgetting.

I know Gore spoke in 2004.
Yes.
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 04:37:48 PM »

Close to zero...she'll be present, but her speech will not be in Primetime, simply because she was the most unpopular Democratic nominee in decades.

Bill probably will speak in Primetime, but that's not a guarantee.
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 04:45:11 PM »

Close to zero...she'll be present, but her speech will not be in Primetime, simply because she was the most unpopular Democratic nominee in decades.

Bill probably will speak in Primetime, but that's not a guarantee.

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 05:05:45 PM »

Depends on the nominee. But if she speaks, shes getting prime time. Regardless of how unpopular Hillary is in general, she is still popular with democrats.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 05:40:56 PM »

90%. Even if Sanders will be there, he will give Clinton the chance to speak no matter how ugly she makes it. Sanders is not vindictive or an egoist about this.

As long as she doesn't descend to blatant personal attacks in 2020...I think Dems will be united. Atleast for the SC, which will be lost for generations. 2020 is possibly the biggest election in decades..
Yeah, sure. His litmus test for ideological purity didn't scream having a big ego at all.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 06:02:24 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 06:04:50 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 06:11:08 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 06:14:04 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing. 

The only delusion here is the idea that Hillary Clinton isn't worthy to speak over a white man she spanked last year by millions of votes in the primary.

And then proceeded to lose to Donald Trump.

Your title for her is not a thing.
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2017, 06:17:29 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing.  

The only delusion here is the idea that Hillary Clinton isn't worthy to speak over a white man she spanked last year by millions of votes in the primary.

And then proceeded to lose to Donald Trump.

Your title for her is not a thing.

She didn't lose. The electors just didn't do their job and now we're stuck with a man who is a genuine threat to our American institutions.

Berniebros will forever delude themselves by claiming that a socialist who supported breadlines and lost to Hillary Clinton by millions in the primary would've somehow won Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2017, 06:19:57 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing. 

The only delusion here is the idea that Hillary Clinton isn't worthy to speak over a white man she spanked last year by millions of votes in the primary.

And then proceeded to lose to Donald Trump.

Your title for her is not a thing.

She didn't lose. The electors just didn't do their job and now we're stuck with a man who is a genuine threat to our American institutions.

Berniebros will forever delude themselves by claiming that a socialist who supported breadlines and lost to Hillary Clinton by millions in the primary would've somehow won Wisconsin.

Then remind me which way the popular vote in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania went. They are obligated to vote the way their state votes, and nothing else.

And also, nice strawmanning there.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2017, 06:22:14 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing. 

The only delusion here is the idea that Hillary Clinton isn't worthy to speak over a white man she spanked last year by millions of votes in the primary.

And then proceeded to lose to Donald Trump.

Your title for her is not a thing.

She didn't lose. The electors just didn't do their job and now we're stuck with a man who is a genuine threat to our American institutions.

Berniebros will forever delude themselves by claiming that a socialist who supported breadlines and lost to Hillary Clinton by millions in the primary would've somehow won Wisconsin.

Then remind me which way the popular vote in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania went. They are obligated to vote the way their state votes, and nothing else.

And also, nice strawmanning there.

Perhaps the popular vote in those states would've gone to Clinton if Breadlines Bernie hadn't tainted the image of the Democratic Party last year.
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2017, 06:24:57 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing. 

The only delusion here is the idea that Hillary Clinton isn't worthy to speak over a white man she spanked last year by millions of votes in the primary.

And then proceeded to lose to Donald Trump.

Your title for her is not a thing.

She didn't lose. The electors just didn't do their job and now we're stuck with a man who is a genuine threat to our American institutions.

Berniebros will forever delude themselves by claiming that a socialist who supported breadlines and lost to Hillary Clinton by millions in the primary would've somehow won Wisconsin.

Then remind me which way the popular vote in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania went. They are obligated to vote the way their state votes, and nothing else.

And also, nice strawmanning there.

Perhaps the popular vote in those states would've gone to Clinton if Breadlines Bernie hadn't tainted the image of the Democratic Party last year.

Or maybe Hillary was just that bad of a candidate.
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2017, 07:19:31 PM »

^^
Maybe she should of visited Wisconsin and Michigan, enough with the lame excuse of getting more votes...YOU LOST. Anyway to the threads question I'd say about 15-20%.
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2017, 07:52:08 PM »

Of course she will speak and that's how it should be. She won the popular vote against both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump by millions of votes. She's the people's President.

Please stop pushing the "People's President"  narrative; it is not a thing.

It is when you win the popular vote by millions over Sanders and Trump.
No, it is not a thing. Her title right now is Former Secretary of State, just like Bernie's is Junior Senator from Vermont. Perhaps you can remind me what Trump's is again.

Her title is the People's President since the people of this fine country voted for her over populist demagogues like Sanders and Trump. Gore was the people's President from 2000-2008 as well.

Are you delusional or something? That title is not a thing.  

The only delusion here is the idea that Hillary Clinton isn't worthy to speak over a white man she spanked last year by millions of votes in the primary.

And then proceeded to lose to Donald Trump.

Your title for her is not a thing.

She didn't lose. The electors just didn't do their job and now we're stuck with a man who is a genuine threat to our American institutions.

Berniebros will forever delude themselves by claiming that a socialist who supported breadlines and lost to Hillary Clinton by millions in the primary would've somehow won Wisconsin.

Then remind me which way the popular vote in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania went. They are obligated to vote the way their state votes, and nothing else.

And also, nice strawmanning there.

Perhaps the popular vote in those states would've gone to Clinton if Breadlines Bernie hadn't tainted the image of the Democratic Party last year.

Or maybe Hillary was just that bad of a candidate.

If Hillary was a bad candidate than the guy she beat by millions in the primaries must have been garbage for losing to her.
This is the funniest argument I have ever seen on this website
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2017, 08:28:55 PM »

The only way she wont be speaking is if a Berniecrat is put in charge of the convention and omits her. In doing so, they risk pissing off the Clinton wing of the party and continuing the divide of the democrats.
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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2017, 08:32:08 PM »

The only way she wont be speaking is if a Berniecrat is put in charge of the convention and omits her. In doing so, they risk pissing off the Clinton wing of the party and continuing the divide of the democrats.

I know I'd be tempted to vote third party at a slight like that. And I live in a swing state now so...
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2017, 08:34:42 PM »

Bernie Sanders will not be the nominee. What he and his deranged stans want will not be a factor.
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