Clinton on Maddow last night. Why do people hate her?

[Santander]

Everything the Clintons ever did was about furthering their own political career. There was never a political principle they didn't meet that wasn't negotiable to further their ambitions. In the 90s, Hillary was talking with a Southern Accent claiming to be a moderate, in 2008 she was slamming Obama saying he couldnt understand white voters like she can while coddling up to John McCain, in 2016 she's talking in her regular voice claiming to be a progressive. The Clinton's remade the Democratic Party to serve themselves yet she still managed to lose in 2008 and again in 2016 despite having the entire media/donor/party machine complex behind her. I mean losing to  Donald Trump is the equivalent to Usain Bolt losing the 500m dash in the special Olympics to a guy in crutches.

Whenever you hear Hillary peddling this whole ''Bernie isn't a Democrat thing,'' what they really mean is anyone who wants to run in the Democratic Party has to bend the knee to the Clinton's and do what they tell you (how else did Hillary end up SoS?). It's a big club and commoners arent allowed at the table.

could be the worst post ever.

No, it's a 100% accurate post.

[Santander]

No one is saying that Hillary is a great political genius or ran a wonderful campaign - although she did get further than any other woman in history, may well get further than any woman in her generation (older boomers born 1946-55) ever will, which is saying something. It's the the vitriolic reaction to her that is so over-the-top that it has exposed what a misogynistic society we live in, and that's why Hillary is a hero for exposing it, and that's why we need more Hillarys.

We might need more women running, but anything but more Hillarys

No, we need more Hillary's until the rage she inspires is drawn out root and branch, and ground into dust.

That's never happened with hate in the history of the world.  It just festers and gets worse.

Hate has been defeated. When the first women's conventions were held in the 1850s, men literally rioted at the prospect of a woman speaking in public. It's all about socialization.

They weren't protesting because they "hated" women.

[Santander]

I don't like Clinton because I disagree with her policices.

No one is saying that Hillary is a great political genius or ran a wonderful campaign - although she did get further than any other woman in history, may well get further than any woman in her generation (older boomers born 1946-55) ever will, which is saying a lot. It's the the vitriolic reaction to her that is so over-the-top that it has exposed what a misogynistic society we live in, and that's why Hillary is a hero for exposing it, and that's why we need more Hillarys.

This is the liberal equivalent to "I don't like Trump, but I vote for him anyway because he makes duh libruhls mad!!!". Depressing how so many people approach politics in this tribalistic way.

Trolling is what makes life worth living.

[Santander]

A good idea when addressing criticisms of Hillary Clinton is to ask yourself "Could I use this same defense of Hillary word for word to dismiss criticisms of Margaret Thatcher?" and if the answer is yes, delete your post and start over.

Ehh...the problem with Thatcher was her politics, not her competence.

The problem with Hillary is her politics.

This is true. Anyone who voted for the Iraq War, which was an obvious farce based on a pack of lies, does not have the judgement to be president.

Thank God we elected Trump, then.

[Santander]

A good idea when addressing criticisms of Hillary Clinton is to ask yourself "Could I use this same defense of Hillary word for word to dismiss criticisms of Margaret Thatcher?" and if the answer is yes, delete your post and start over.

Ehh...the problem with Thatcher was her politics, not her competence.

The problem with Hillary is her politics.

This is true. Anyone who voted for the Iraq War, which was an obvious farce based on a pack of lies, does not have the judgement to be president.

She did so very reluctancly, contrary to urban legend. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2016/02/hillary_clinton_told_the_truth_about_her_iraq_war_vote.html

Oh well that makes it ok then.