Clinton on Maddow last night. Why do people hate her?

[JA]

Maybe it's because she speaks so condescendingly, attempted to hide an email scandal, lost a very winnable race, is still dividing the Democratic Party, etc.

It's not because she's a woman. It's because of who she is as a person.

Basically this. Anyone who falls back onto the tired old "you hate her because she's a woman" schtick is pretty pathetic. Sure, there are likely many people who dislike her because of her gender; that seems to be a particular problem with liberal female politicians. But there are plenty of reasons for people, left and right, to dislike her aside from that. Personally, I never trusted her, I didn't think she'd do half the things she promised, she always seemed rather condescending, and she seemed far too dependent on all those technocratic techniques of trying to win an election. Her voting history was uninspiring, her picking Kaine was disappointing, the entire premise of her campaign was despiriting, and the fact that she continues to relitigate her failed campaign and blame her failures, at least in part, on her Democratic rival who was far too kind to her, shows what a sorry loser she is too.

[JA]

This thread is a good reminder of why I stopped self-identifying as a Democrat...

[JA]

Maybe it's because she speaks so condescendingly, attempted to hide an email scandal, lost a very winnable race, is still dividing the Democratic Party, etc.

It's not because she's a woman. It's because of who she is as a person.

Basically this. Anyone who falls back onto the tired old "you hate her because she's a woman" schtick is pretty pathetic. Sure, there are likely many people who dislike her because of her gender; that seems to be a particular problem with liberal female politicians. But there are plenty of reasons for people, left and right, to dislike her aside from that. Personally, I never trusted her, I didn't think she'd do half the things she promised, she always seemed rather condescending, and she seemed far too dependent on all those technocratic techniques of trying to win an election. Her voting history was uninspiring, her picking Kaine was disappointing, the entire premise of her campaign was despiriting, and the fact that she continues to relitigate her failed campaign and blame her failures, at least in part, on her Democratic rival who was far too kind to her, shows what a sorry loser she is too.

Those are all reasons for being underwhelmed with her, or finding her uninspired or boring. Those are not reasons to hate a person with passion.

John Kerry isn't hated for running a lacklustre campaign and losing to GWB. Neither is Al Gore, who "lost" in a somewhat similar fashion to Hillary. Neither is Mitt Romney. All of those guys were boring technocrats who don't campaign very well, but are strong on substance - much like Hillary. Except for the chromosomes.

Except that I never said I hate her, let alone with a passion. I voted for her in November and, against any Republican, I'd vote for her again (unenthusiastically). With that said, I find the way she has voted, handled her position as SoS, and campaigned to be incredibly disappointing, her conduct in regards to Wall Street and other elites frustrating (that applies to Obama and all the others as well), and her willingness to do whatever it takes to win (including running a racist campaign against Obama in '08 and switching positions on major issues like TPP in '16) disgusting. She's the embodiment of what millions of Americans hate about our political establishment. People found her so repugnant that the majority voted third party, abstained, or voted for the ultimate bigoted dumbass known as Trump.

[JA]

Because Hillary Clinton actively and avidly seeks to destroy huge swathes of the electorate in order to fortify her own position. Hillary would be happy to watch my relatives in WV starve to death, because there is "no room" for them in her America.  Anyone who voted for her with the desire to see her as President as opposed to a desire to see Donald Trump not be President is effectively endorsing this.

Very unfair!

It is too bad. It's also too bad your beloved leader decided to permit the completion of the Keystone XL pipeline, something that will only speed up the rot of whatever heroin-infested hellhole your aunts live in. At least they were lucky enough to be spared Hillary's Final Solution for rural whites!

And this why I hold you in equal contempt as her, "socialist"-VA.

Shouldn't your aunt and brother have personal responsibility and pull themselves up by their bootstraps? If they need government help they're just worthless commies who should die in your ideology.

You guys are assholes.