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« on: September 16, 2017, 11:46:52 PM »

A few days after the 2016 election, an article appeared in Slate which argued against running candidates simply because it was that particular candidate's "turn" to run. The article cited Bob Dole (1996), John McCain (2008), Mitt Romney (2012), and Hillary Clinton (2016) as such candidates, and as we all know, all of them lost. Using this logic, would Bernie Sanders be considered a "my turn" candidate for 2020 (and thus his likelihood of winning would decrease on that basis)?
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2017, 11:50:50 PM »

A few days after the 2016 election, an article appeared in Slate which argued against running candidates simply because it was that particular candidate's "turn" to run. The article cited Bob Dole (1996), John McCain (2008), Mitt Romney (2012), and Hillary Clinton (2016) as such candidates, and as we all know, all of them lost. Using this logic, would Bernie Sanders be considered a "my turn" candidate for 2020 (and thus his likelihood of winning would decrease on that basis)?

Bernie would run because no one else non terrible would run not because he has been carefully spending his whole life plotting to be President.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2017, 04:43:37 AM »

Bernie would not be a "my turn" candidate, he would be a message candidate.

Hillary essentially tied Obama in the 2008 primaries, and therefore she was owed a nomination. In that sense she was a "my turn" candidate, but it was an earned turn. Bernie lost pretty convincingly, so he's not owed anything. If he won, it would be because the party is turning away from neoliberalism.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2017, 05:12:58 AM »

The last such nominee was Walter Mondale.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2017, 06:43:15 AM »

There is no such thing as a "my turn" candidate.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2017, 09:57:33 AM »

Bernie would not be a "my turn" candidate, he would be a message candidate.

Hillary essentially tied Obama in the 2008 primaries, and therefore she was owed a nomination. In that sense she was a "my turn" candidate, but it was an earned turn. Bernie lost pretty convincingly, so he's not owed anything. If he won, it would be because the party is turning away from neoliberalism.

Nobody is owed anything.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2017, 09:59:31 AM »

A few days after the 2016 election, an article appeared in Slate which argued against running candidates simply because it was that particular candidate's "turn" to run. The article cited Bob Dole (1996), John McCain (2008), Mitt Romney (2012), and Hillary Clinton (2016) as such candidates, and as we all know, all of them lost. Using this logic, would Bernie Sanders be considered a "my turn" candidate for 2020 (and thus his likelihood of winning would decrease on that basis)?

Bernie would run because no one else non terrible would run not because he has been carefully spending his whole life plotting to be President.
The man writing about how women fantasize over being raped certainly is "non terrible"
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2017, 10:15:14 AM »

There is no such thing as a "my turn" candidate.

This.

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2017, 10:32:11 AM »

I would view Joe Biden as that even though he didn't run but I'm sure he would have if not for Beau's death and Hillary's intimidation.

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2017, 11:29:45 AM »

I would view Joe Biden as that even though he didn't run but I'm sure he would have if not for Beau's death and Hillary's intimidation.



If Joe Biden ran, I think we would have seen a 3-way contested convention of Biden vs. Clinton vs. Sanders, as it would have resulted in no one being able to receive a majority of the delegates.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2017, 12:54:58 PM »

The last such nominee was Walter Mondale.
Going by Vice Presidents, then Al Gore also.
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