Georgia Tech Student Activist shot dead by campus police

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-tech-student-activist-shot-dead-campus-police-n802146

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Given the victim appeared to be challenging officers to shoot him, I don't expect disciplinary action, let alone criminal charges. What do you think?

[Green Line]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

[Alabama_Indy10]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

Whatever fits their narrative.

[NewYorkExpress]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

[JA]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

[NewYorkExpress]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

[JA]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

[Dr. Arch]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

[Green Line]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

LOL.

[dead0man]

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

No police in the US are trained this way.  They are trained to use their weapon to stop the threat, and that (usually) means 2 shots, center mass.  And the science* backs it up.  Hitting someone jacked up on adrenaline (and Og knows what else) with a sidearm in an extremity is:
a.hard to do
2.even if it works, likely won't stop the threat right away
C.increases likely hood of ricochets

Two shots, center mass stops the threat, right now.

Yes, there have been a few police sniper shots, but in more static environments, not in this type of situation.  Even two shots, center mass doesn't always work, but it usually does.  Often the person dies, but that's secondary to stopping the threat.



*it seems it's not settled I guess....some people seem to be suggesting that three shots center mass is even more efficient and others going so far as to say two center mass and one to the melon...but that seems a bit too "cowboy" for me, and harder to do of course.

[Alabama_Indy10]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

Please become a police officer. Just please do it. You'll be singing a different tune quickly.

[Virginiá]

Please become a police officer. Just please do it. You'll be singing a different tune quickly.

Oh puhhh-lease. Are you seriously saying they can't be expected to aim for the legs first? For as unrealistically anti-cop as you may think some lefties are, there are tons of righties that are just as obscenely and unrealistically pro-cop. I dunno if you're one of them, but your comment may suggest it.

If that is what cops were trained to do, they would get along just fine. Just because someone has a knife doesn't mean your only option is to kill. Some of us just don't buy this "it's the only way" pro-cop propaganda.

[Daniel909012]

For me, anyone who attacks anyone deserves death.

[GoTfan]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

LOL.

It's true. Cops over here are trained to shoot to immobilise rather than kill; hitting the legs or arms.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

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Given the victim appeared to be challenging officers to shoot him, I don't expect disciplinary action, let alone criminal charges. What do you think?

You are likely correct that the so-called police will not face any punishment for killing someone they were supposed to protect, but that's not how rights and the law work under a functioning judicial system. Good shoot or bad shoot, it's about what the victim was doing and what reasonable judgement the police could make about his actions. Just because someone (like a presidential candidate) invites someone else to commit a felony (like illegally interfering in an election) doesn't absolve anyone of wrongdoing under the law.

[Holmes]

For me, anyone who attacks anyone deserves death.

Wow.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

For me, anyone who attacks anyone deserves death.

Another Deplorable.

[Badger]

Difficult to say considering the circumstances. It's tough to arm chair these things after the fact.

Still, the word taser comes to mine here.

[Chief Justice Keef]

ACAB

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Difficult to say considering the circumstances. It's tough to arm chair these things after the fact.

Still, the word taser comes to mine here.

Yeah, but at the same time I don't think this warrants disciplinary action of any sort.  The guy was approaching a cop with a knife, refusing to drop it, and daring the officer to shoot him.  I mean I can't really say I blame the cop for shooting him given the circumstances.  For all the officer knew, the guy could've been about to charge and try to stab him to death.  It's sad, but sometimes split-second decisions are necessary under such circumstances.

[Mr. Smith]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

LOL.

It's true. Cops over here are trained to shoot to immobilise rather than kill; hitting the legs or arms.

Even those areas can be deadly.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Please become a police officer. Just please do it. You'll be singing a different tune quickly.

Oh puhhh-lease. Are you seriously saying they can't be expected to aim for the legs first? For as unrealistically anti-cop as you may think some lefties are, there are tons of righties that are just as obscenely and unrealistically pro-cop. I dunno if you're one of them, but your comment may suggest it.

If that is what cops were trained to do, they would get along just fine. Just because someone has a knife doesn't mean your only option is to kill. Some of us just don't buy this "it's the only way" pro-cop propaganda.

Well shooting people in the legs can also be deadly.. Would you be raging at these cops if they shot someone in the arm or leg to try to "immobilize" them and they ended up dying?

[JA]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

Please become a police officer. Just please do it. You'll be singing a different tune quickly.

The only new tune I'd be singing is an even stronger support for the outlawing of private ownership of guns and more robust public funding for mental health care, anti-poverty programs, and improved education.

[JA]

How is it at all relevant that he was an LGBT activist, aside from muh identity politics.  Is it believed the police were targeting a gay?

They weren't targeting anyone. They were responding to a call that he was carrying a gun. Turns out he was carrying a knife, and when they tried to get him to drop the weapon, he dared them to shoot him. They obliged.

That's no excuse to shoot him dead. They could've easily neutralized him and contained the situation without taking his life. This is simply excessive use of force.

And how do you propose they do that without being stabbed?

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.

LOL.

It's true. Cops over here are trained to shoot to immobilise rather than kill; hitting the legs or arms.

Even those areas can be deadly.

Being shot practically anywhere has the risk of causing death. However, at least the greatest effort possible was invested into minimizing the chances of a person losing their life. You can't blame a police officer for defending themselves, but you can blame them for intentionally killing a person when it wasn't absolutely necessary.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Hard to believe this is newsworthy.