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dead0man
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« on: September 17, 2017, 04:04:28 PM »

There's this amazing thing called the human body and there are many places on it where a person may be shot that'd inflict enough pain to neutralize them without inflicting a fatal wound. A competent, well-trained police officer would've been easily capable of making such a shot at that range without endangering himself either.
No police in the US are trained this way.  They are trained to use their weapon to stop the threat, and that (usually) means 2 shots, center mass.  And the science* backs it up.  Hitting someone jacked up on adrenaline (and Og knows what else) with a sidearm in an extremity is:
a.hard to do
2.even if it works, likely won't stop the threat right away
C.increases likely hood of ricochets

Two shots, center mass stops the threat, right now.

Yes, there have been a few police sniper shots, but in more static environments, not in this type of situation.  Even two shots, center mass doesn't always work, but it usually does.  Often the person dies, but that's secondary to stopping the threat.



*it seems it's not settled I guess....some people seem to be suggesting that three shots center mass is even more efficient and others going so far as to say two center mass and one to the melon...but that seems a bit too "cowboy" for me, and harder to do of course.
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dead0man
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 10:56:20 PM »

It's true. Cops over here are trained to shoot to immobilise rather than kill; hitting the legs or arms.
that seems strange to me....I found this.
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dead0man
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 10:39:15 AM »

The idea that it's easy to shoot to wound is a Hollywood fiction.

The police in Finland have a policy to shoot in the legs. From 2003 to 2013 the Finnish police fired their service weapon 122 times. Only 7 of those cases led to a fatality.

This policy was followed even when dealing with the recent terrorist stabber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Turku_stabbing

Who the hell do you think you are coming into this here thread spouting verifiable facts that contradict the narrative adored by most Americans?!
who is spouting unverified facts (other than the guy that said it was law in Australia to shoot to wound) and who is adoring anything?  Nobody, especially the cop that did it, wanted this dude dead.

Look, there is an argument both ways here.  The vast majority of gun professionals, police forces and militaries in the world use and train using the "shoot to stop the threat/firing some number of rounds center mass/head".  That doesn't make them right and shooting to wound people wrong though.
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