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Alabama_Indy10
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« on: September 17, 2017, 10:17:54 PM »

What's the difference?
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 11:42:17 PM »

Lenin was concentrated on seizing and holding power, even in one country (so - not according to initial theory of "world proletarian revolution"), he was a brilliant, though absolutely cynical, tactitian after all. Trotsky was closer to initial theory, even saying that for the sake of Revolution it was permissible even to lose power in Russia (absolute "no" for Lenin), for example. There are many other, but this is, probably, the most important.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 03:08:49 PM »

Are there any differences? Before joining Lenin in 1917, Trotsky hadn't strong ideological views and later he was viewed as closest Lenin's ally and successor
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2017, 01:20:48 AM »

Are there any differences? Before joining Lenin in 1917, Trotsky hadn't strong ideological views and later he was viewed as closest Lenin's ally and successor

Difficult to say, exactly because Trotsky didn't had strong ideological views for a long time. He was much better speaker then Stalin (with his Georgia accent) and many other, but, as far as ideology is concerned - who knows?
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 08:08:54 AM »

National Trotskyism is our children's future.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 08:33:29 AM »

National Trotskyism is our children's future.

Then i feel sorry for your children. Trotsky was rare scoundrel - on par with Lenin....
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 10:07:06 AM »

Trotskyism really only developed after Trotsky was defeated and was largely shaped by that defeat. When he was relevant he tended to argue from the more extreme side of things, but then so did Lenin at times (consider the murderous insanity of War Communism etc) and there was never any indication of a significant body of independent thought. In general the idea that Trotsky was an important or original thinker is a myth.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2017, 03:53:47 PM »

National Trotskyism is our children's future.

Then i feel sorry for your children. Trotsky was rare scoundrel - on par with Lenin....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Hu-MVoNs8
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2017, 12:11:42 AM »


Exactly. You confirmed my words above.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2017, 11:43:35 PM »


In Russia, they do have the joke, yes?
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 01:57:13 AM »


We have everything))))
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