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« Reply #225 on: September 24, 2017, 05:11:49 PM »

I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims.

Christians in the Islamic world face far more discrimination and violence than Muslims anywhere in the West.

And your point is? Are we supposed to judge our country by the way people in other countries behave and are treated?

A gay refugee literally lost fingers fleeing to Canada after Trump's election because will be killed if he returns to his home country.

Alas, these are the people Trump and his apologists wants to keep out of the US.  Ironic, considering that the worldview of many of his supporters is not too different from that of Islamists.

Which is why there are more pressing matters than getting triggered by who is kneeling for an anthem.

American politics, including this forum, are dominated by Middle and Upper-Class White people, so issues like this will always take priority.
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« Reply #226 on: September 24, 2017, 05:22:46 PM »

I never stand for the anthem for a variety of reasons one mainly being the countries views on Arabs and Muslims.

Christians in the Islamic world face far more discrimination and violence than Muslims anywhere in the West.

And your point is? Are we supposed to judge our country by the way people in other countries behave and are treated?

A gay refugee literally lost fingers fleeing to Canada after Trump's election because will be killed if he returns to his home country.

Alas, these are the people Trump and his apologists wants to keep out of the US.  Ironic, considering that the worldview of many of his supporters is not too different from that of Islamists.

Which is why there are more pressing matters than getting triggered by who is kneeling for an anthem.

American politics, including this forum, are dominated by Middle and Upper-Class White people, so issues like this will always take priority.
This is literally the reason why Democrats alway loose when the economy is well off.
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« Reply #227 on: September 24, 2017, 06:42:53 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2017, 06:47:10 PM by Old School Republican »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .

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« Reply #228 on: September 24, 2017, 07:57:06 PM »

The anthem shouldn't be played at any sporting event period. It's ridiculous that it even happens frankly.

Nonesense, IMHO. God Bless America.
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« Reply #229 on: September 24, 2017, 08:53:37 PM »

Ironically, the team named the Panthers didn't have any players participate in the kneeling protest.
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« Reply #230 on: September 24, 2017, 09:20:49 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .



Today I have learned that 2/4 = "most"
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« Reply #231 on: September 24, 2017, 09:50:28 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .

Airstrikes against ISIS (in Syria) come with the tiny problem that they're illegal under international law.

And you left out

Somalia - unjustified (except for anti-piracy operations)
Yemen - unjustified
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« Reply #232 on: September 24, 2017, 09:58:06 PM »

Continued heartbreak is what I feel for this country right now.
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« Reply #233 on: September 24, 2017, 10:00:43 PM »

The sad irony is that the protesting seemed to be losing steam before these comments.  This certainly had unintended consequences, even letting the protests spread to baseball.
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« Reply #234 on: September 24, 2017, 10:07:32 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .



Today I have learned that 2/4 = "most"

3/5 since its happening in both Iraq and Syria.
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« Reply #235 on: September 24, 2017, 10:08:14 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .



Today I have learned that 2/4 = "most"

3/5 since its happening in both Iraq and Syria.

Ah, neocon math.
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« Reply #236 on: September 24, 2017, 10:10:43 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .



Today I have learned that 2/4 = "most"

3/5 since its happening in both Iraq and Syria.

Ah, neocon math.


No its just counting the number of interventions


And these have been the interventions since 2001

Afgahnistan
Iraq (2003-2011)
Libya
Iraq(2014-Present)
Syria (2014-Present)

 
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« Reply #237 on: September 24, 2017, 10:14:05 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .

Airstrikes against ISIS (in Syria) come with the tiny problem that they're illegal under international law.

And you left out

Somalia - unjustified (except for anti-piracy operations)
Yemen - unjustified



no thats Saudi Arabia not the US .


As for somalia we havent been there since 1993.
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« Reply #238 on: September 24, 2017, 10:49:05 PM »

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« Reply #239 on: September 24, 2017, 10:50:00 PM »

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« Reply #240 on: September 24, 2017, 10:51:08 PM »

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« Reply #241 on: September 24, 2017, 10:52:52 PM »

Most of America's Middle East interventions since 2001 have been justified


Afghanistan- The tailban aided and gave safe haven to terrorist groups who did 9/11 , so the invasion of Afghanistan was totally justified , just as declaring war on Japan after Pearl Harbor was totally justified.


Iraq - This one was unjustified

Libya - Unjustified

Airstrikes against ISIS - totally justified as ISIS is a threat to the US and the world .



Today I have learned that 2/4 = "most"

3/5 since its happening in both Iraq and Syria.

Ah, neocon math.


No its just counting the number of interventions


And these have been the interventions since 2001

Afgahnistan
Iraq (2003-2011)
Libya
Iraq(2014-Present)
Syria (2014-Present)

 

You forgot Yemen and Somalia.
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« Reply #242 on: September 24, 2017, 10:53:38 PM »


Oh dear lord...
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« Reply #243 on: September 24, 2017, 10:56:49 PM »


I love small government!
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« Reply #244 on: September 24, 2017, 10:57:37 PM »


Is he being coy or he is really so dense that he doesn't understand that the locking of arms is the same protest, but a little tamer so that conservatives won't foam at the mouth at it?
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« Reply #245 on: September 24, 2017, 11:15:01 PM »

I agree with Trump that it is extremely disrespectful to kneel during the national anthem (or stay in the locker room). And no, standing for the anthem doesn't mean "I love Trump!!!" or "I love Police Brutality!!!" - it's simply an action that shows you are an american who respects our flag, our country's existence, and our founding fathers. Nothing more.

However, whether there should be consequences for these players is a matter for the NFL only, and it is inappropriate for the President to inject himself into such matters.
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« Reply #246 on: September 24, 2017, 11:25:12 PM »

I agree with Trump that it is extremely disrespectful to kneel during the national anthem (or stay in the locker room). And no, standing for the anthem doesn't mean "I love Trump!!!" or "I love Police Brutality!!!" - it's simply an action that shows you are an american who respects our flag, our country's existence, and our founding fathers. Nothing more.

However, whether there should be consequences for these players is a matter for the NFL only, and it is inappropriate for the President to inject himself into such matters.
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« Reply #247 on: September 24, 2017, 11:43:13 PM »

I'm sure all the people who lost homes in Houston, Florida, and Puerto Rico really give a s*** about this debate.

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« Reply #248 on: September 24, 2017, 11:45:16 PM »

I'm sure all the people who lost homes in Houston, Florida, and Puerto Rico really give a s*** about this debate.


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« Reply #249 on: September 25, 2017, 08:00:01 AM »

The Chicago Bears, a classy organization, stood shoulder to shoulder today for the anthem.  The Pittsburgh Steelers should be forced to forfeit the game for their actions.  Fortunately, karma is in Soldier Field today, and its not in the Steeler's favor.

Yep, karma got them.  Good.  The only guy I feel bad for is Villanueva.  Like most heroes, he stands alone.
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