Lumine/Rpryor for President/Vice-President (Defense Policy)

[Lumine]

Lumine for President:

A New Dawn for Atlasia

Former President Lumine announces his third presidential campaign at a rally in San Francisco

Press Release: Following significant reflexion and the urging of several Atlasians to join the presidential race, former President Lumine announced today that he was indeed seeking the White House to be elected to a second full-term, more than three years after his first term. He is to run as an independent, separate from both Labor and the Federalists.

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Lumine.

[Lumine]

Campaign Info:

Endorsements:

Former Vice-President Rpryor

Senator Spiral

Former Justice Oakvale

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Inactivity reins still on several places of our Republic. We carry on with a model of gridlock in Congress, as the bicameral system slows things and complicates them despite the hard work of many accomplished people in Nyman.

Lumine I like and respect you, but this is really unfair to the hard work of Scott, PiT, myself and the rules changes that NeverAgain, myself and PiT worked hard on.

I realize you are opposed to the bicameralist system, but we passed the CR in less than a week. The Budget Process and Control Act in 3 weeks. There are processes for simultaneous consideration of bills now The last 3 VPs in a row have been actively engaged in the proceedings of Congress and their work has kept bills flowing, passing through both chambers and on to the President.

This may have been accurate six months ago, but it is not the case now. In the Fourth Congress, one bill was put on my desk. In the Fifth Congress, over a dozen was placed on DFW's desk.


You complain of a seeming move to the left, but I would note that we have regionalized healthcare regulations with a bill that is very similar to on you helped me, shua and Duke write in 2014 (though this one now is more conservative with a regional opt out for the public option). The surest path to a real leftward slide is to return to a unicameralist system or worse a Parliamentary system where there would be no checks on a Labor majority and stuff like single payer would slide through with ease just like what happened in 2009 with Fritzcare. And it took 5 years to change that I would note, I was there for all five.

I would bring to mind the TNF bills, especially the attempt to nationalize power, which only failed because together we Garlanded the VP nomination as you will recall, until after the next election. Had the VP not been vacant, it would have passed. Under a bicameralist system, such obstructionism of the VP nomination would not be rendered necessary as a desperate last stand of free marketers to stave off socialism.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I realize you are opposed to the bicameralist system, but we passed the CR in less than a week. The Budget Process and Control Act in 3 weeks. There are processes for simultaneous consideration of bills now The last 3 VPs in a row have been actively engaged in the proceedings of Congress and their work has kept bills flowing, passing through both chambers and on to the President.

This may have been accurate six months ago, but it is not the case now. In the Fourth Congress, one bill was put on my desk. In the Fifth Congress, over a dozen was placed on DFW's desk.

     I've been VP for less than two weeks and Congress has already passed seven bills and resolutions under my watch. Bicameralism absolutely has what it takes to work as a system; it just needs active people in charge. If we abolish game mechanics that have only struggled due to the inactivity of some past officeholders, then we are only lowering standards when what we should be doing is rising to the occasion ourselves.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I realize you are opposed to the bicameralist system, but we passed the CR in less than a week. The Budget Process and Control Act in 3 weeks. There are processes for simultaneous consideration of bills now The last 3 VPs in a row have been actively engaged in the proceedings of Congress and their work has kept bills flowing, passing through both chambers and on to the President.

This may have been accurate six months ago, but it is not the case now. In the Fourth Congress, one bill was put on my desk. In the Fifth Congress, over a dozen was placed on DFW's desk.

     I've been VP for less than two weeks and Congress has already passed seven bills and resolutions under my watch. Bicameralism absolutely has what it takes to work as a system; it just needs active people in charge. If we abolish game mechanics that have only struggled due to the inactivity of some past officeholders, then we are only lowering standards when what we should be doing is rising to the occasion ourselves.

Yes and a lot of mistakes were made when Congress was getting started, that produced the string of horrible Congresses in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th terms.  

We restored the pre-reset Noticeboard, we started linking and signing off on chamber votes and started engaging in simultaneous consideration of bills, which we did for the Budget Control Act and Healthcare (which passed relatively quickly, once the bill itself was written, though Scott's thread did remain dormant for 8 months, the actually bill we passed was finished in early August. The House thread reflects this).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Also, in terms of getting that budget thing going, it really would have been a big help if you had created Noticeboard threads for the first and second Congresses as VP, because it is making digging up revenue/expense generating bills problematic. It took ten minutes to collect them all from Goldwater's and PiT's threads covering twice as many Congresses.

[rpryor03]

ENDORSED!

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Why four people I really like must be competing for one office?

[Lumine]

Why four people I really like must be competing for one office?

Well, it makes things far more exciting, doesn't it?

ENDORSED!

Thanks, my friend! Pleased to have you on board!

Seen as Yankee already brought the spin machine, I'll be delivering a speech later today answering to the latest claim that bicameralism stops socialism (gods, what a risible argument to make).

[Adam Griffin]

Wait, so you're telling me there are right-wingers who aren't content for their standard bearer in this presidential election to be a far-left Jill Stein supporter who got their feelings hurt by a bad party chair and decided they'd pretend to be a right-winger? Color me skeptical!

I wish your bald-ass head the best of luck!

[fhtagn]

and decided they'd pretend to be a right-winger?

Not sure where you're getting the "pretend to be a right winger" from, considering I've been open about the fact that I'm not a right winger, and have been very open about the policies (both left and right) in which I place my support. The majority of Federalist Party members know this, as well as those outside of the party.

I am not the most conservative member of the Federalist Party, and I never claimed myself to be. The Federalist Party is a very diverse party, with a large moderate wing, which I realize is where I generally fit on most issues.

It's been about 5 months (?) since I've joined the Federalist Party and you're still complaining? I'd say that's a pretty clear indicator it's not me who has the hurt feelings.


TL;DR:

[Adam Griffin]

[Lies and slander]

You're not "not the most conservative member of the Federalist Party" nor are you even a "moderate": you're a blatant left-winger (arguably to the left of myself!) who made their career over spilled milk and the fact that one (or more?!) people on the Right wanted to have sexy times with you. Now you're President because of a series of acts involving schemes and corruption.

I actually don't think most Federalists know that, as I understand how the game works all too well. I can only hope Lumine makes a case to all of those principled zombies and players who don't know any better!

[Adam Griffin]

And you shouldn't flatter yourself too much about any of this: I have always called out ideological discrepancies when and where they exist, whether it's in one party or another. I'd be raging if ChairmanSanchez or whomever was a Labor Party President pretending to be a "moderate" all the same, because it'd be just as ri-goddamn-diculous as the current situation.

[fhtagn]

It's cute that you're making all these assumptions when it's painfully obvious you know absolutely nothing about me and my views, nor have you made any effort to. In fact, even when I was in the Labor Party, I don't recall any situations where we ever interacted with each other.

It's also hilarious that you think you have anything to say about the Federalist Party or it's members today considering:
1. You're not a Federalist.
2. You're not even active in this game, and haven't been in quite some time.
3. Most folks (especially the newer players) don't even know who you are.

I think what is truly "ri-goddamn-diculous" is how painfully obvious it is that you just want a piece of the "divide the Federalist Party" cake. It's not about ideology to you (if it was, you wouldn't have backed letting a Federalist become Chair of the Labor Party ).

So instead of continuing this, I'm going to end it with a quote from my dear friend, and my party's Chair:

the Federalist Party, is nobody's bitch

And that certainly includes you

[Adam Griffin]

LOL, I know plenty to make a judgement call. Because just like poor Ben Kenobi who you used for political gain and just like your current internet Fantasyland boyfriend that you're using for votes, you are just one of many archetypes that I've seen cycle through this time plenty of times. I don't have to know you (and certainly not in the Biblical sense!) to see it for what it is.

The difference between somebody like Ted - who had been legitimately shifting left in reality for quite some time - and somebody like you who is still a rabid leftist Jill Stein supporter pretending to be something completely clear across the spectrum (while simultaneously trying to be everything to everybody) doesn't really need to be explained.

the Federalist Party, is nobody's bitch

And if you're a Federalist, then that label means nothing anymore: I guess we can thank the last President for that if so. I don't have to be a Federalist to know that. I've lived throughout its entire existence, done political battle with every one of its key leaders over that time and certainly know its machinations even better than you (and yes, even when I'm not paying attention to the game).

Even if the Old Guard has allowed their own party to be hollowed out and stand for nothing more than a walking ideological hypocrisy of personality cultism in the pursuit of victory, that still applies and it's still obvious to this somebody who isn't "active in this game".

[Adam Griffin]

[Sorry to have derailed your thread, Lumine - I'll let this illegitimate opportunist of a President and company respond in whatever way they desire without weighing in further]

* Though I make no guarantees when Yankee inevitably storms in at 1 AM and starts with his 1,000 word quote-storms

[fhtagn]

[meaningless, probably drunk, rambling]

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Look, how about we abolish the Presidency and institute a collective council in lines of Switzerland? Then I can back all of you.

[Lumine]

Yes, I complain about a move to the Left

Former President Lumine offers criticism of the current direction of the Atlasian center-right

Press Release: Deciding to answer to the latest claims by Speaker Yankee, former President Lumine spoke on further detail on his concerns regarding the Federalist Party leadership.

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[PPT Spiral]

Enthusiastically endorsed! This is the strong leadership we need in this age, and I'm proud to be on the same side as my old friend.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Welcome to the race, Lumine; I look forward to the contest ahead.

[Lumine]

Enthusiastically endorsed! This is the strong leadership we need in this age, and I'm proud to be on the same side as my old friend.

Spiral, thank you very much! Your endorsement will be crucial in the days ahead, and I'm grateful for your support.

Welcome to the race, Lumine; I look forward to the contest ahead.

Thanks, Truman! I look forward to it as well, I think we'll have a lot of fun debating about the Atlasia we want to see.

[Lumine]

Why Unicameralism Matters

Press Release:Former President Lumine explained today one of his planks for Game Reform, outlining the need for a Unicameral System with both regional and at-large Senators like in the past:

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[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I agree bicameralism was always a freaking travesty.

[Terry the Fat Shark]

who made their career over spilled milk and the fact that one (or more?!) people on the Right wanted to have sexy times with you.

maybe one day Adam, maybe one day, but dfwadamlover will never ever be canon


Anyways, endorsed for 2nd preference, I really would consider 1st preferencing if fhtagn was not in the race (that's because of policies, which if anyone actually bothered to research would know that she has moved pretty rapidly to the right mostly due to life factors, among other thing and is now in the same realm as me, except possibly to my right), that being said, good luck!