The Joy of Un-Packing

[opebo]

Best of luck to you with this issue, man.  Everybody makes mistakes; the secret is to learn from them and move forward.

The only reason NickShepDEM has suffered for these 'mistakes' is because he is a poor who depends upon scholarships (charity).  A rich may fail out of colleges all he likes, and there will be no ill effect.

This could all be solved by providing free university education with living stipends for all, and without onerous academic requirements.

[John Dibble]

Best of luck to you with this issue, man.  Everybody makes mistakes; the secret is to learn from them and move forward.

The only reason NickShepDEM has suffered for these 'mistakes' is because he is a poor who depends upon scholarships (charity).  A rich may fail out of colleges all he likes, and there will be no ill effect.

This could all be solved by providing free university education with living stipends for all, and without onerous academic requirements.

Yes, let's waste time and tax dollars giving lazy people who don't really want an education a way to lounge about for a few years.

[Platypus]

the government should at least subsidise universities a bit. Your unis are WAY expensive.

[dazzleman]

Best of luck to you with this issue, man.  Everybody makes mistakes; the secret is to learn from them and move forward.

The only reason NickShepDEM has suffered for these 'mistakes' is because he is a poor who depends upon scholarships (charity).  A rich may fail out of colleges all he likes, and there will be no ill effect.

This could all be solved by providing free university education with living stipends for all, and without onerous academic requirements.

Yes, let's waste time and tax dollars giving lazy people who don't really want an education a way to lounge about for a few years.

That's just about what opebo's proposal would accomplish, and that shouldn't be a surprise, considering the source.  Look at what his education has done for him.  Opebo has simply taken the central idea of 1960s liberalism -- rewarding failure and sloth -- to its logical extreme.  That's what his parents did with him, on a private basis, and look at how well he turned out.  Surely, it would be great to employ that method on a broader basis, using tax money.  I'm all for it.

[John Dibble]

the government should at least subsidise universities a bit. Your unis are WAY expensive.

If I'm not mistaken it does. The government also offers lots of finanacial aid options.

[dazzleman]

the government should at least subsidise universities a bit. Your unis are WAY expensive.

If I'm not mistaken it does. The government also offers lots of finanacial aid options.

Unfortunately, the effects of financial aid are to effectively increase the students' ability to pay, which allows the universities to raise tuitions even higher.  College tuition costs have been increasing at a rate well above the general inflation rate for a very long time.

[John Dibble]

the government should at least subsidise universities a bit. Your unis are WAY expensive.

If I'm not mistaken it does. The government also offers lots of finanacial aid options.

Unfortunately, the effects of financial aid are to effectively increase the students' ability to pay, which allows the universities to raise tuitions even higher.  College tuition costs have been increasing at a rate well above the general inflation rate for a very long time.

Oh I agree - I was just refuting hughento's assertion that the government doesn't subsidize our universities.

[opebo]

Best of luck to you with this issue, man.  Everybody makes mistakes; the secret is to learn from them and move forward.

The only reason NickShepDEM has suffered for these 'mistakes' is because he is a poor who depends upon scholarships (charity).  A rich may fail out of colleges all he likes, and there will be no ill effect.

This could all be solved by providing free university education with living stipends for all, and without onerous academic requirements.

Yes, let's waste time and tax dollars giving lazy people who don't really want an education a way to lounge about for a few years.

That's just about what opebo's proposal would accomplish, and that shouldn't be a surprise, considering the source.  Look at what his education has done for him.  Opebo has simply taken the central idea of 1960s liberalism -- rewarding failure and sloth -- to its logical extreme.  That's what his parents did with him, on a private basis, and look at how well he turned out.  Surely, it would be great to employ that method on a broader basis, using tax money.  I'm all for it.

Dibble, dazzle, you are neglecting the obvious fact that your treasured laissez-faire capitalism is constructed to ensure utter laziness, sloth, and leisure to the owning classes.

Seems odd to criticize my propositions based upon the same goals that your system prioritizes.