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« Reply #75 on: August 27, 2005, 06:24:47 pm »
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What a dumbass thread.
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« Reply #76 on: August 27, 2005, 06:25:20 pm »
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Feminism supports equality and maximum rights for women.

Radical "feminists" do no support maximum rights for women, because they want to limit a woman's right to appear in pornography, or take off her clothes or have sex for money. Therefore they are not feminists at all.

A true feminist would agree with opebo.
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« Reply #77 on: August 27, 2005, 06:29:41 pm »
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Okay, hold on a second.

Let's look at the theory behind the Laffer Curve. At a 0 percent tax rate, the government will (of course) take in $0 in tax revenue. On the other hand, at very high tax rates, the government will also take in very little total revenue, because no one has any incentive to earn income. Hence, the conclusion to be drawn is that there must be an intermediate tax rate that maximizes total tax revenue. Now if the current tax rate happens to be higher than this intermediate tax rate, the government can actually "cut taxes" and have more revenue to spend.

Now, I would dispute this with an analogy.

At very low temperatures (near zero degrees Kelvin), people will freeze to death and hence tax revenue will be zero. At very high temperatures (thousands of degrees Kelvin), people will burn up and hence tax revenues will be zero. Therefore, should we conclude there must exist a temperature that maximizes tax revenue?

If the Laffer-curve supporter in this argument followed your pattern of thinking, he would not dispute that the analogy was inaccurate, but instead insist that "there's no way I would argue there must exist a temperature that maximizes tax revenue."

By doing this, he does not dispute my point, but rather concedes by implication the inconsistency.
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« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2005, 06:36:04 pm »
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Wow, another straw man argument. Of course BRTD wouldn't argue that the Nazis were anti-Jewish you straw manning fool.

Of course he wouldn't, because Nazis aren't on the approved list for liberals.  Feminists are.  You people are completely incapable of thinking for yourselves.  The principle is the same, if either of you were intelligent enough to recognize it, which you are not.
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« Reply #79 on: August 27, 2005, 06:37:23 pm »
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Wow, another straw man argument. Of course BRTD wouldn't argue that the Nazis were anti-Jewish you straw manning fool.

Of course he wouldn't, because Nazis aren't on the approved list for liberals.  Feminists are.  You people are completely incapable of thinking for yourselves.  The principle is the same, if either of you were intelligent enough to recognize it, which you are not.

Feminists support genocide?
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« Reply #80 on: August 27, 2005, 06:38:02 pm »
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LOL. You guys can not follow points at all. He's giving you an analogy, and you're not disputing the analogy but instead saying you wouldn't be on the same side of the exceptions argument (in other words, inconsistency).

You're exactly right, Philip.  They're nitwits who can only spew hate when they are so clearly proved wrong.  The fact that they are liberals speaks volumes about the quality of liberal thought.
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« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2005, 06:38:37 pm »
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Wow, another straw man argument. Of course BRTD wouldn't argue that the Nazis were anti-Jewish you straw manning fool.

Of course he wouldn't, because Nazis aren't on the approved list for liberals. Feminists are. You people are completely incapable of thinking for yourselves. The principle is the same, if either of you were intelligent enough to recognize it, which you are not.

Feminists support genocide?

If you got that out of my statement, then you're even more retarded than I thought you were.
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« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2005, 06:40:00 pm »
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You said "The principle is the same" implying that defending feminists is equivalent to defending Nazis.
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« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2005, 06:41:13 pm »
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The principle is the same in that exceptions don't disprove a general rule.
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« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2005, 06:41:57 pm »
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This thread has proven what I have long believed about the reaction of liberals when their orthodoxy is questioned. And the more correct the questioning is, the more nasty and hateful they become.

Clearly, feminism is a liberal icon that is not to be questioned under any circumstances. I have seen for myself the ugliness of political correctness in this thread.

I will not contribute any further to this thread, as I think it has run its course. It is degenerating into a nasty exchange of the type that I like to avoid, with posters that I generally like to avoid interaction with due to their inability to sustain a logical discussion.
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« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2005, 06:43:59 pm »
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That's funny since I have trashed many "feminists" in this thread.

I have argued though that they are not true feminists, and only ones such as Sprinkle and Dodson are. And there is no valid complaints about such feminists as I can see, as they do not hate men and have no problems with porn. Therefore I can not see any valid arguments against them.

FCK MACKINNON AND DWORKIN.

ooh, did that hurt dazzleman? Did I just prove you wrong?

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« Reply #86 on: August 27, 2005, 06:46:11 pm »
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« Reply #87 on: August 27, 2005, 06:47:05 pm »
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Wow, another straw man argument. Of course BRTD wouldn't argue that the Nazis were anti-Jewish you straw manning fool.

Of course he wouldn't, because Nazis aren't on the approved list for liberals.  Feminists are.  You people are completely incapable of thinking for yourselves.  The principle is the same, if either of you were intelligent enough to recognize it, which you are not.

Yeah, if we were really intelligent we would mindlessly bash feminists and liberals with straw man arguments.
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« Reply #88 on: August 27, 2005, 06:48:33 pm »
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What dazzleman does is no different than if opebo were to claim that Falwell and Robertson represent all Christians.
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« Reply #89 on: August 27, 2005, 06:50:51 pm »
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You have yet to dispute the accuracy of the analogy. Simply calling something a straw man again and again because of an aspect that was not being compared does not qualify as a serious argument of any kind.

It has been explained to you several times. You just can't process information properly.
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« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2005, 06:52:33 pm »
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You have yet to dispute the accuracy of the analogy. Simply calling something a straw man again and again because of an aspect that was not being compared does not qualify as a serious argument of any kind.

It has been explained to you several times. You just can't process information properly.

So feminists are Nazis? Then Godwin's Law, he loses.
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« Reply #91 on: August 27, 2005, 06:53:34 pm »
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Please look up what an analogy is and try again. Hint: it doesn't mean every aspect of the two is the same.
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« Reply #92 on: August 27, 2005, 06:54:53 pm »
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Apparently one can only be a true feminist if s/he likes sex.
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« Reply #93 on: August 27, 2005, 06:56:15 pm »
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Please look up what an analogy is and try again. Hint: it doesn't mean every aspect of the two is the same.

Comparing feminists to Nazis makes you lose.
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« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2005, 06:56:46 pm »
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Apparently one can only be a true feminist if s/he likes sex.

They do not neccesarily have to like it, but they must be tolerant of it.

Some radical "feminists" have even attacked homosexual groups, over things such as lesbian erotica. Anyone who holds such positions is not a liberal.
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« Reply #95 on: August 27, 2005, 06:57:25 pm »
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Apparently one can only be a true feminist if s/he likes sex.

They do not neccesarily have to like it, but they must be tolerant of it.

Some radical "feminists" have even attacked homosexual groups, over things such as lesbian erotica. Anyone who holds such positions is not a liberal.
Apparently one can only be a true liberal if s/he likes sex.
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« Reply #96 on: August 27, 2005, 06:57:54 pm »
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If I was losing, my opponent in this argument would at least be making points instead of repeating stupid slogans like "you lose." Exceptions do not undermine a general rule in either case.
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« Reply #97 on: August 27, 2005, 06:57:59 pm »
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Apparently one can only be a true feminist if s/he likes sex.

They do not neccesarily have to like it, but they must be tolerant of it.

Some radical "feminists" have even attacked homosexual groups, over things such as lesbian erotica. Anyone who holds such positions is not a liberal.
Apparently one can only be a true liberal if s/he likes sex.

Can one be a conservative if they want to abolish science?
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« Reply #98 on: August 27, 2005, 06:58:36 pm »
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This is a wacked thread, mainly because jfern and reddy boy are totally dense-- geez what a disaster it would be if BRTD took a logic test. He sort of uses a shotgun fallacy approach-- make so many at once that's it hard to explain in one sentence why he's wrong. And then of course accuse the other person of a "straw man," which obviously he does not even understand.
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« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2005, 06:58:51 pm »
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The atitudes of some "feminist" groups remind me of an Ed Helms quote - "Why do you insist on sexualizing vaginas?"
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