Which Third Party Would You Have Voted for In 2000

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I said Nader in this poll because I almost voted for him in 2000.  He's much closer to my views than the Dems, but I don't think he has the right temperment to be President.

I don't know anything about the Socialist candidate, so I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for him, although I consider myself a socialist.  But the "Socialist" party in the US is pretty sketchy.

[Gustaf]

I said Nader in this poll because I almost voted for him in 2000.  He's much closer to my views than the Dems, but I don't think he has the right temperment to be President.

I don't know anything about the Socialist candidate, so I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for him, although I consider myself a socialist.  But the "Socialist" party in the US is pretty sketchy.

Is there really much of a difference between Socialist candidates? What could a Socialist candidate do to make himself (or herself) different from another Socialist candidate? It seems to me like what could one Libertarian candidate do to be different from another Libertarian candidate. When one is so totally ideological what difference does it make?

There can be great differences. Moderate socailists are a long way from radical ones.

[Gustaf]

There can be great differences. Moderate socailists are a long way from radical ones.

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Please explain!

Well. Radical socialists would presumably want to socialize everything and create a class-free society, with no private property etc. More moderate socailists might want to have a relatively large welfare state to care for the poor, but accept a private sector, small business, perhaps even free markets for many commodities.

[Gustaf]

There can be great differences. Moderate socailists are a long way from radical ones.

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Please explain!

Well. Radical socialists would presumably want to socialize everything and create a class-free society, with no private property etc. More moderate socailists might want to have a relatively large welfare state to care for the poor, but accept a private sector, small business, perhaps even free markets for many commodities.

Oh. I see. One group would only take away freedom while the other would take away liberty as well. Gee, that is like being given a choice of death by hanging or firing squad! No thanks!

Sigh. My point wasn't that a libertarian would like either one of them, only that there are major differences. It obviously depends somewhat on where you draw the line, but the ruling party in Sweden, who are usually viewed as socialists, have deregulated the electricity market and kept voucher schools, among other things that would certainly be anathema to most hard.core socailsits.

[Gustaf]

There can be great differences. Moderate socailists are a long way from radical ones.

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Please explain!

Well. Radical socialists would presumably want to socialize everything and create a class-free society, with no private property etc. More moderate socailists might want to have a relatively large welfare state to care for the poor, but accept a private sector, small business, perhaps even free markets for many commodities.

Oh. I see. One group would only take away freedom while the other would take away liberty as well. Gee, that is like being given a choice of death by hanging or firing squad! No thanks!

Sigh. My point wasn't that a libertarian would like either one of them, only that there are major differences. It obviously depends somewhat on where you draw the line, but the ruling party in Sweden, who are usually viewed as socialists, have deregulated the electricity market and kept voucher schools, among other things that would certainly be anathema to most hard.core socailsits.

Gee, I guess I have to defer to the judgement of a Swede where even a conservative is a Socialist! Does that mean that a liberal is a Communist? What a country!

Well...we don't have American conservatives, we have a libertarian-leaning conservative party, right-leaning liberals, agrarians and sort-of-conservative Christian Democrats, who together make up the permanent opposition. Then we have the ruling social democrats=moderate socailists, who usually does what they have to. Like cutting taxes and deregulating markets. Then we have more hard-core socalists, who are friendly to small business though, and the greens, who are left-leaning on most issues but not all.

It's different I guess, but it's still home, lol.

[© tweed]

At the time: Nader
Now:

[Gustaf]

There can be great differences. Moderate socailists are a long way from radical ones.

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Please explain!

Well. Radical socialists would presumably want to socialize everything and create a class-free society, with no private property etc. More moderate socailists might want to have a relatively large welfare state to care for the poor, but accept a private sector, small business, perhaps even free markets for many commodities.

Oh. I see. One group would only take away freedom while the other would take away liberty as well. Gee, that is like being given a choice of death by hanging or firing squad! No thanks!

Sigh. My point wasn't that a libertarian would like either one of them, only that there are major differences. It obviously depends somewhat on where you draw the line, but the ruling party in Sweden, who are usually viewed as socialists, have deregulated the electricity market and kept voucher schools, among other things that would certainly be anathema to most hard.core socailsits.

Gee, I guess I have to defer to the judgement of a Swede where even a conservative is a Socialist! Does that mean that a liberal is a Communist? What a country!

Well...we don't have American conservatives, we have a libertarian-leaning conservative party, right-leaning liberals, agrarians and sort-of-conservative Christian Democrats, who together make up the permanent opposition. Then we have the ruling social democrats=moderate socailists, who usually does what they have to. Like cutting taxes and deregulating markets. Then we have more hard-core socalists, who are friendly to small business though, and the greens, who are left-leaning on most issues but not all.

It's different I guess, but it's still home, lol.

And Princess Madeline is a real babe!

Lol, yeah.

[© tweed]

And Princess Madeline is a real babe!

That she is.



Hehe

[© tweed]

Good photo, Boss!

There's a dirtier one but I didn't post it.

[Beet]

Her head seems kind of small.

[MasterJedi]

In this one, Harry Browne!