McGreevey Forbidden from receiving communion

[© Tweed the Younger]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-bishop-communion,0,191450.story

"BLACKWOOD, N.J. -- The incoming leader of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Camden said that he would not serve Holy Communion to Gov. James E. McGreevey, a divorced Catholic who supports abortion rights."

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This is terrible.  Just pathetic.

[Aaron]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-bishop-communion,0,191450.story

"BLACKWOOD, N.J. -- The incoming leader of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Camden said that he would not serve Holy Communion to Gov. James E. McGreevey, a divorced Catholic who supports abortion rights."

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This is terrible.  Just pathetic.

If you are against the church, why should you be able to take part in its most sacred practice?

[Brambila]

We've had this debate before. The church has every right to decide who they want to give communion to, and if a person is in sin, or is against church doctrine, you can't recieve communion- easy as that.

As i've stated before, Communion in it's own meaning means you must be 100% in communion with the church- we're all in the community of Christ's body. But if somebody doesn't believe in something, he's not in Christ's body, and therefore cannot participate in communion.

Fortunately, John Kerry did NOT recieve communion in a Catholic Church, but a reformed heretical "catholic" church, which was more similar to a liberal lutheran or anglican church.

[© Tweed the Younger]

If you are against the church, why should you be able to take part in its most sacred practice?

He is not 'against the church'.  He does not agree with every last thing the pope (or some other bishop or w/e they call them) says.

[Harry]

Just so you know, I am Catholic, and I would never support denying Communion to anyone.  It is simply hypcritical, and I want yall to know that every Catholic isn't an idiot.

[Aaron]

If you are against the church, why should you be able to take part in its most sacred practice?

He is not 'against the church'.  He does not agree with every last thing the pope (or some other bishop or w/e they call them) says.

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

[© Tweed the Younger]

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

If you excommunicate all pro-choice catholics you excommunicate a helluva lot of people...like RUDY GIULIANI (REPUBLICAN).

(Giuliani is also against a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN!  OFF WITH HIS HEAD!)

[Aaron]

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

If you excommunicate all pro-choice catholics you excommunicate a helluva lot of people...like RUDY GIULIANI (REPUBLICAN).

(Giuliani is also against a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN!  OFF WITH HIS HEAD!)

I am not for excommunicating Giuliani, but am I do support denying him communion

[Sibboleth]

Just so you know, I am Catholic, and I would never support denying Communion to anyone.  It is simply hypcritical, and I want yall to know that every Catholic isn't an idiot.

Good point. A majority of Canadians are Catholics.

[Kodratos]

Just so you know, I am Catholic, and I would never support denying Communion to anyone.  It is simply hypcritical, and I want yall to know that every Catholic isn't an idiot.

Good point. A majority of Canadians are Catholics.

Only 45% of Canadians are Catholics. Most of those are Quebecers(who aren't even real Canadians).

[Wakie]

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

If you excommunicate all pro-choice catholics you excommunicate a helluva lot of people...like RUDY GIULIANI (REPUBLICAN).

(Giuliani is also against a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN!  OFF WITH HIS HEAD!)

I am not for excommunicating Giuliani, but am I do support denying him communion

Excommunicating someone is removing them from the body of Christ.  By denying them Communion you are doing just that.

[Sibboleth]

Just so you know, I am Catholic, and I would never support denying Communion to anyone.  It is simply hypcritical, and I want yall to know that every Catholic isn't an idiot.

Good point. A majority of Canadians are Catholics.

Only 45% of Canadians are Catholics. Most of those are Quebecers(who aren't even real Canadians).

1) Working out % of religion in a given country is next to impossible. About 45-50% seems fairly accurate...
2) Quebec voted to stay in Canada. So they are Canadians.

[Aaron]

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

If you excommunicate all pro-choice catholics you excommunicate a helluva lot of people...like RUDY GIULIANI (REPUBLICAN).

(Giuliani is also against a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN!  OFF WITH HIS HEAD!)

I am not for excommunicating Giuliani, but am I do support denying him communion

Excommunicating someone is removing them from the body of Christ.  By denying them Communion you are doing just that.

McGreevey has already removed himself from the body of Christ. Communion is for believers.

[Sibboleth]

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

If you excommunicate all pro-choice catholics you excommunicate a helluva lot of people...like RUDY GIULIANI (REPUBLICAN).

(Giuliani is also against a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN!  OFF WITH HIS HEAD!)

I am not for excommunicating Giuliani, but am I do support denying him communion

Excommunicating someone is removing them from the body of Christ.  By denying them Communion you are doing just that.

McGreevey has already removed himself from the body of Christ. Communion is for believers.

Your attitude is unchristian

[Harry]

Denying someone Communion based on his sins is totally hypocritcal.

And being pro-choice is not a sin.

[Aaron]

Denying someone Communion based on his sins is totally hypocritcal.

And being pro-choice is not a sin.

Nobody is denying anyone communion for thier sins. they are denying them communion for thier support of sin.

[Sibboleth]

Denying someone Communion based on his sins is totally hypocritcal.

And being pro-choice is not a sin.

Nobody is denying anyone communion for thier sins. they are denying them communion for thier support of sin.

Eh?

[classical liberal]

Denying someone Communion based on his sins is totally hypocritcal.

And being pro-choice is not a sin.

Good point.  Having an abortion would be the sin.

[Aaron]

He is certainly not WITH the church. The pope has said abortion is wrong, and that cannot be questioned as the pope is infallible. He is AGAINST fundamental Catholic doctrine, and therefore should be excommunicated. He is a heretic.

If you excommunicate all pro-choice catholics you excommunicate a helluva lot of people...like RUDY GIULIANI (REPUBLICAN).

(Giuliani is also against a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN!  OFF WITH HIS HEAD!)

I am not for excommunicating Giuliani, but am I do support denying him communion

Excommunicating someone is removing them from the body of Christ.  By denying them Communion you are doing just that.

McGreevey has already removed himself from the body of Christ. Communion is for believers.

Your attitude is unchristian

Why, because I think people should be held responsible for thier actions? You don't know the first thing about Chistianity. Christ only forgives those that want to be forgiven, not those that support anti-Christian behavior without remorse.

[Aaron]

Denying someone Communion based on his sins is totally hypocritcal.

And being pro-choice is not a sin.

Nobody is denying anyone communion for thier sins. they are denying them communion for thier support of sin.

Eh?

Abortion is a sin. The church does not deny communion to women who have had abortions and are remorseful for thier sin. It should deny communion to those who support that sin.

[Sibboleth]

Why, because I think people should be held responsible for thier actions? You don't know the first thing about Chistianity. Christ only forgives those that want to be forgiven, not those that support anti-Christian behavior without remorse.

Er... I think I know a little bit about Christianity seeing as I base my moral and political beliefs on it...
Hatemongering is Unchristian.
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BTW exactly who will be saved is a complex theological debate going back hundreds of years... Look at the different predestination theories.

[Aaron]

Why, because I think people should be held responsible for thier actions? You don't know the first thing about Chistianity. Christ only forgives those that want to be forgiven, not those that support anti-Christian behavior without remorse.

Er... I think I know a little bit about Christianity seeing as I base my moral and political beliefs on it...
Hatemongering is Unchristian.
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BTW exactly who will be saved is a complex theological debate going back hundreds of years... Look at the different predestination theories.

First of all, whatever Unitarian beliefs you have are not Christian.

Following Christian teaching is not hatemongering.

Predestination(the version to which I am sure you are reffering) is a heretical Protestant theory to which I do not subscribe

[Sibboleth]

Why, because I think people should be held responsible for thier actions? You don't know the first thing about Chistianity. Christ only forgives those that want to be forgiven, not those that support anti-Christian behavior without remorse.

Er... I think I know a little bit about Christianity seeing as I base my moral and political beliefs on it...
Hatemongering is Unchristian.
---
BTW exactly who will be saved is a complex theological debate going back hundreds of years... Look at the different predestination theories.

First of all, whatever Unitarian beliefs you have are not Christian.

Following Christian teaching is not hatemongering.

Predestination(the version to which I am sure you are reffering) is a heretical Protestant theory to which I do not subscribe

1) I am not a Unitarian (I'm a Methodist)
2) Hatemongering is not Christian teaching.
3) Predestination is not heretical (I'm not sure if it's right or not though) and Protestantism is not heretical.

[Aaron]

Why, because I think people should be held responsible for thier actions? You don't know the first thing about Chistianity. Christ only forgives those that want to be forgiven, not those that support anti-Christian behavior without remorse.

Er... I think I know a little bit about Christianity seeing as I base my moral and political beliefs on it...
Hatemongering is Unchristian.
---
BTW exactly who will be saved is a complex theological debate going back hundreds of years... Look at the different predestination theories.

First of all, whatever Unitarian beliefs you have are not Christian.

Following Christian teaching is not hatemongering.

Predestination(the version to which I am sure you are reffering) is a heretical Protestant theory to which I do not subscribe

1) I am not a Unitarian (I'm a Methodist)
2) Hatemongering is not Christian teaching.
3) Predestination is not heretical (I'm not sure if it's right or not though) and Protestantism is not heretical.

1) Just as bad
2)Once again, following Chuch doctrine is not hatemongering.
3) Predestination rejects free will( Catholic doctrine), and therefore is heretical. Protestantism rejects many Christian teachings and is heretical

[Sibboleth]

Why, because I think people should be held responsible for thier actions? You don't know the first thing about Chistianity. Christ only forgives those that want to be forgiven, not those that support anti-Christian behavior without remorse.

Er... I think I know a little bit about Christianity seeing as I base my moral and political beliefs on it...
Hatemongering is Unchristian.
---
BTW exactly who will be saved is a complex theological debate going back hundreds of years... Look at the different predestination theories.

First of all, whatever Unitarian beliefs you have are not Christian.

Following Christian teaching is not hatemongering.

Predestination(the version to which I am sure you are reffering) is a heretical Protestant theory to which I do not subscribe

1) I am not a Unitarian (I'm a Methodist)
2) Hatemongering is not Christian teaching.
3) Predestination is not heretical (I'm not sure if it's right or not though) and Protestantism is not heretical.

1) Just as bad
2)Once again, following Chuch doctrine is not hatemongering.
3) Predestination rejects free will( Catholic doctrine), and therefore is heretical. Protestantism rejects many Christian teachings and is heretical

Sectarian bigot