Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Ebowed]

No, that completely alters the intent of the original law, which is the author's hope, obviously.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd support the bill if you add a provision requiring their school programs to be conform to the Pacific's programs (so that they can't teach creationism etc).

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

No, that completely alters the intent of the original law, which is the author's hope, obviously.

I wasn't here for the original vote, so what was the original intent?

[CatoMinor]

I'd support the bill if you add a provision requiring their school programs to be conform to the Pacific's programs (so that they can't teach creationism etc).

ok, added.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Fine then.

Amendment to The Religious Institution Classification Act 

The Religious Institution Classification Act is hereby amended to read:

1. Any church or religious institution that requires its members to pay fees shall henceforth be recognized as businesses by the Pacific Region.

2. Every other church or religious institution shall be tax exempt. These groups shall lose their tax exempt status should they:
a. Donate money to a political campaign.
b. Endorse anyone running for public office.
c. Begin requiring members to pay fee's for any reason other than paying for damaged property. 
d. Their school programs do not follow the required curriculum set forth by The Pacific.   


X Jbrase

X Antonio V

[CatoMinor]

No, that completely alters the intent of the original law, which is the author's hope, obviously.

What was the intent? If you wanna treat churches that act like businesses as businesses then fine, but if you just want to lump all into the same group like that and tax them as business then that is just bullying.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm with Ebowed on this one, it seems. I see no reason to give churches special treatment.

[CatoMinor]

I'm with Ebowed on this one, it seems. I see no reason to give churches special treatment.

They do a ton of non-profit work. Food drives, shelters, hospitals. Churches a lot of the time are the ones that provide most to those in need. Just because a lot of people in this region are atheist and tend to dislike church is no reason ignore all their good deeds. I see no reason to tax the groups that do nothing more than help others.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I appreciate it if you guys could message me the Bills, that would make sure I didn't miss anything.  I will still be on this board, of course.  

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Fine then.

Amendment to The Religious Institution Classification Act  

The Religious Institution Classification Act is hereby amended to read:

1. Any church or religious institution that requires its members to pay fees shall henceforth be recognized as businesses by the Pacific Region.

2. Every other church or religious institution shall be tax exempt. These groups shall lose their tax exempt status should they:
a. Donate money to a political campaign.
b. Endorse anyone running for public office.
c. Begin requiring members to pay fee's for any reason other than paying for damaged property.  
d. Their school programs do not follow the required curriculum set forth by The Pacific.  


X Jbrase

X Antonio V

I officially approve this bill as constitutionally fit.  It may be passed by the Pacific Legislature.

[Ebowed]

No, that completely alters the intent of the original law, which is the author's hope, obviously.

I wasn't here for the original vote, so what was the original intent?

To remove the tax exemption that churches are provided with in the United States.  This proposal restores the tax exemption.

I just wonder if Jbrase's wording covers the LDS' efforts on behalf of Prop 8 in California.  Clearly under any reasonable interpretation they would lose their status, but the real life IRS appears uninterested so far.

[CatoMinor]

No, that completely alters the intent of the original law, which is the author's hope, obviously.

I wasn't here for the original vote, so what was the original intent?

To remove the tax exemption that churches are provided with in the United States.  This proposal restores the tax exemption.

I just wonder if Jbrase's wording covers the LDS' efforts on behalf of Prop 8 in California.  Clearly under any reasonable interpretation they would lose their status, but the real life IRS appears uninterested so far.

Yes under what I wrote the LDS would lose their tax-exempt status.

[bgwah]

I suppose this thread should be moved to the new Regional Governments board.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I suppose this thread should be moved to the new Regional Governments board.

Don't we need a moderator to do that?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Well, maybe we can simply start a new legislature thread there.

[Oakvale]

I've PMed Gustaf and asked him to move this thread to the new board.

Also,

The Education Incentives Act passed with a vote of 8-0, with one abstaining vote.

X Oakvale

The Aaron Burr Day Creation Act fails to pass with a vote of 5-4, although it was apparently unconstitutional anyway so there you go.

I gotta say I'm enjoing the current debate about Jbrase's bill. I'm still undecided as to whether to support it or not.

[RI]

I would support Jbrase's proposal.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I would support Jbrase's proposal.

TOO LATE!!!

[CatoMinor]

I would support Jbrase's proposal.

TOO LATE!!!

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I would support Jbrase's proposal.

TOO LATE!!!

Sorry, but it's true.   You had that other bill, though.   

[RI]

I am confused.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I am confused.

About what?

[Purple State]

Just a question, why doesn't the Pacific move their legislature thread to the Elections main board so that new members are more aware of its existence?

Wow, this thread is in the same board as all the other legislatures? I proposed that over 30 pages ago.

Progress!

[Oakvale]

Just a question, why doesn't the Pacific move their legislature thread to the Elections main board so that new members are more aware of its existence?

Wow, this thread is in the same board as all the other legislatures? I proposed that over 30 pages ago.

Progress!

Obviously I take full credit for this.

[Antonio the Sixth]

People of the Pacific, I submit today a bill of primary importance :


We'll miss you Act

1. November 2th shall hereby be a mourning day known as the Russ, we'll miss you Day, in the honor of former Senator Russ Feingold.
2. During his day, any household that asks for shall be gratuitously supplied in yard signs, posters, T-shirts or pins displaying the words "Russ, we'll miss you", or a picture of Russ Feingold.
3. A household shall be entitled under section 2) to a maximum of two previously cited items.
4. No household that has already received two previously cited items from the Pacific government under section 2) in the previous 10 years shall be entitled to the provision of section 2).


I'd like to attract the attention of Mr Pacific Justice on the fact that, as fmr Senator Feingold has been restlessly working for general welfare for the last 18 years, the We'll miss you Act can be considered as promoting the general welfare.