Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Lunar]

ur gay
lol only in L.A.

[Alexander Hamilton]

ur gay
lol only in L.A.

NOT NICE TO SAY!

[Lunar]

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[Alexander Hamilton]

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(pwned)

man i knew i left this region for a reason!

[Marokai Backbeat]

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(pwned)

man i knew i left this region for a reason!

Easier to win elsewhere?

[Alexander Hamilton]

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(pwned)

man i knew i left this region for a reason!

Easier to win elsewhere?

No. The Northeast and Mideast are just better regions.

[Purple State]

I am quite enjoying Lunar's (semi?) return to Atlasia. Definitely nice to have one of the better and funnier posters on the forum livening things up.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Getting back to taxes...

Pacific Deficit Reduction Act:

1. The income tax rate on the bracket created by the Income Tax Increase Act will be raised by 4.5%.
2. The income tax rate on incomes exceeding $300,000 will be raised by 2%.
3.The provisions in this Act shall take effect on the 15th of October.

(We could also consider raising the estate tax if this isn't enough)

If the first is lowered to 3.5% instead of 4.5% (that is a bit steep) then I could support it, although I still see absolutely no reason why we shouldn't tax books.

[Ebowed]

Pacific Deficit Reduction Act

1. The income tax rate on the bracket created by the Income Tax Increase Act will be raised by 3.5%.
2. The income tax rate on incomes exceeding $300,000 will be raised by 2%.
3. The provisions in this Act shall take effect on the 15th of October.

As for not taxing books, well, I just feel that expanding regressive taxes would be unwise at this point in time.  We could always just vote on two separate bills, one which would re-instate the sales tax on books, and one which would have a slightly higher income tax increase.

[Sbane]

What are the current tax rates? How progressive are the tax rates already?

[Ebowed]

What are the current tax rates? How progressive are the tax rates already?

The tax rate being referred into in the first clause is a tax of 45.5% on income exceeding $50 million.

[Sbane]

Pacific Deficit Reduction Act

1. The income tax rate on the bracket created by the Income Tax Increase Act will be raised by 3.5%.
2. The income tax rate on incomes exceeding $300,000 will be raised by 2%.
3. The provisions in this Act shall take effect on the 15th of October.

Nay

Are we even voting on these next two? Well here's how I would vote.

Abolition of Life Imprisonment Without the Possibility of Parole Act
1. The possible sentence of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole is hereby abolished.
2. Statute outlining the sentence abolished above shall be amended to read "life imprisonment with the possibility of parole after twenty years."

NAY

Alkyl Nitrites Deregulation Act
1. Any regional and local laws to prohibit the sale, possession, consumption, distribution, or manufacture of alkyl nitrites ("poppers") are repealed.
2. Sale of alkyl nitrites to persons under the age of 18 will remain illegal.

AYE

[Sbane]

What are the current tax rates? How progressive are the tax rates already?

The tax rate being referred into in the first clause is a tax of 45.5% on income exceeding $50 million.

And what is the existing tax rate for income exceeding $300,000? Or is there nothing specified? Anyways I would still vote no. I would be interested in raising the estate tax though.

[Ebowed]

Voting hasn't been opened on anything yet.  I have no idea what the present tax rate on income exceeding $300,000 is - a stab in the dark here is that the Pacific Region's income tax rates (excepting the new rate of 45.5% on income exceeding $50 million) happen to be the same as those of the real-life state of Arizona.  Which, if this is true, should probably be modified extensively to suit the progressive whims of this legislature.

Our estate tax law since August 2007 states as follows:

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This, I believe, is likely in addition to the federal estate tax rate, which according to F.L. 22-1 is:

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[Marokai Backbeat]

*Whistles*

[bgwah]

I think y'all need to take 30 seconds to read the Pacific Constitution's legislature section. Signatures are required for a vote. You guys aren't even signing your own legislation.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I think y'all need to take 30 seconds to read the Pacific Constitution's legislature section. Signatures are required for a vote. You guys aren't even signing your own legislation.

The Governor can side-step those silly signature regulations simply by just bringing it up.

[bgwah]

I think y'all need to take 30 seconds to read the Pacific Constitution's legislature section. Signatures are required for a vote. You guys aren't even signing your own legislation.

The Governor can side-step those silly signature regulations simply by just bringing it up.

Not quite. The Governor can sign it and then a vote can be held no earlier than 24 hours later.

Trust me, I became quite familiar with Pacifican law after being Governor for so long.

And from what I recall, all current proposals have now expired, not getting the required signatures in time. You can re-propose them, though...

And really, just PM the guy.

[bgwah]

Humane Farming Practices Bill
1) It shall be illegal to slaughter farm animals while they are still conscious.
2) Any farm found to be violating this rule due to negligence will be fined at least $10,000 and up to $1,000,000, depending on the scale and severity of the violation.
3) Any farm found to be purposely violating this rule (such as but not limited to an attempt to sell kosher meats) shall be fined up to $5,000,000 and shut down.

[Vepres]

Humane Farming Practices Bill
1) It shall be illegal to slaughter farm animals while they are still conscious.
2) Any farm found to be violating this rule due to negligence will be fined at least $10,000 and up to $1,000,000, depending on the scale and severity of the violation.
3) Any farm found to be purposely violating this rule (such as but not limited to an attempt to sell kosher meats) shall be fined up to $5,000,000 and shut down.

Damn socialist!

[bgwah]

They can import their meat.

[Purple State]

They can import their meat.

You are displacing countless processing plants, forcing them to close down and layoff workers. This will also increase the price of kosher and halal meat/poultry in the Pacific.

[bgwah]

They can import their meat.

You are displacing countless processing plants, forcing them to close down and layoff workers. This will also increase the price of kosher and halal meat/poultry in the Pacific.

That is no excuse.

[bgwah]

Humane Farming Practices Bill
1) It shall be illegal to slaughter farm animals while they are still conscious.
2) Any farm found to be violating this rule due to negligence will be fined at least $10,000 and up to $1,000,000, depending on the scale and severity of the violation.
3) Any farm found to be purposely violating this rule (such as but not limited to an attempt to sell kosher meats) shall be fined up to $5,000,000 and shut down.

X Bgwah

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'll sign it just to move it forward.

x Marokai Blue