Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[CatoMinor]

Nay

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It doesn't say what kind of firearms though.

This is only banning automatic firearms, not handguns and hunting rifles. 

Exactly, it just says fire arms. it does not not say "The right to keep and bear hand guns, air-rifles, and hunting rifles shall not be infringed, everything else is fair game to ban", it says fire-arms. Automatic weapons are by definition fire-arms, and this bill is with out doubt infringing on the right to keep and bear them, thus this bill is violating constitutional law. Sorry, but I will sue the region should it pass.

I personally dislike fire-arms myself, but people have a right to have them.

[Oakvale]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act: Nay

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act: Nay

Alright, well I'm of to get my gat and roll on some raggedy ass bustas.  See you homies later.

[Ebowed]

Aye  (I BELIEVE CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE.... Won't someone please think of the children?  And their safety?)

[Marokai Backbeat]

Aye

[Oakvale]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act: Nay

Alright, well I'm of to get my gat and roll on some raggedy ass bustas.  See you homies later.

O hell yea son.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Nay

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It doesn't say what kind of firearms though.

This is only banning automatic firearms, not handguns and hunting rifles. 

Exactly, it just says fire arms. it does not not say "The right to keep and bear hand guns, air-rifles, and hunting rifles shall not be infringed, everything else is fair game to ban", it says fire-arms. Automatic weapons are by definition fire-arms, and this bill is with out doubt infringing on the right to keep and bear them, thus this bill is violating constitutional law. Sorry, but I will sue the region should it pass.

I personally dislike fire-arms myself, but people have a right to have them.

It doesn't say we can't regulate what kinds of firearms people are permitted to either.  Plus, I don't think the founding fathers had Uzi's in mind when they wrote this. 

No disrespect.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[MaxQue]

Aye

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Aye

[bgwah]

abstain

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Please take a look at our new proposition for an elected legislature:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=116254.msg2728194#msg2728194

All suggestions and critiques are very welcome!

Oh, and Abstain.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I like the bill except for the term limits, for which I don't really see the point. Also, the way Councilors are elected isn't very clear.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I like the bill except for the term limits, for which I don't really see the point. Also, the way Councilors are elected isn't very clear.

I thought about that myself after looking at our draft.  Maybe we could have one seat up for election say, every two months and each seat would have a six month term (after our first election, maybe two seats can volunteer for shorter terms so we can get the ball rolling)?  And use IRV for each election?

I'm hoping we can get this passed before the end of the month so we can have elections in December along with Governor and Lt. Governor.

[RI]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act: Nay.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I like the bill except for the term limits, for which I don't really see the point. Also, the way Councilors are elected isn't very clear.

I thought about that myself after looking at our draft.  Maybe we could have one seat up for election say, every two months and each seat would have a six month term (after our first election, maybe two seats can volunteer for shorter terms so we can get the ball rolling)?  And use IRV for each election?

I'm hoping we can get this passed before the end of the month so we can have elections in December along with Governor and Lt. Governor.

I like the idea of terms not being simultaneous (it will make the Council look like the US Senate ).

[Marokai Backbeat]

I have always liked our legislature unelected and open to everyone in this region. I have no desire to see it turn boring, and the second this place turns elected is about the time I stop paying attention to our legislature entirely.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I have always liked our legislature unelected and open to everyone in this region. I have no desire to see it turn boring, and the second this place turns elected is about the time I stop paying attention to our legislature entirely.

Only one House of the legislature will be elected.  The other one will be comprised entirely of unelected Pacific Citizens.

[Oakvale]

I have always liked our legislature unelected and open to everyone in this region. I have no desire to see it turn boring, and the second this place turns elected is about the time I stop paying attention to our legislature entirely.

Only one House of the legislature will be elected.  The other one will be comprised entirely of unelected Pacific Citizens.

Yeah, it's worth noting that we'll still have our current legislature, just with another chamber added.

And hey, it's all strictly on a trial basis - if it doesn't work out too well we can always scrap it later, but I'm a firm believer in experimentation - I've never been a fan of the "if it ain't broke..." school of thought.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

As I searched though the archives of stature passed I found nothing concerning the ownership of weapons, which is why I wrote this bill to propose to the Legislate.  

Sorry if it sounds a bit choppy, but it's better than nothing. 

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Constitutional, it may be passed.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Please take a look at our new proposition for an elected legislature:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=116254.msg2728194#msg2728194

All suggestions and critiques are very welcome!

Oh, and Abstain.

Approved as constitutional. It may be passed.

[Oakvale]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

4 Aye
3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

[CatoMinor]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

4 Aye
3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

No need to run and hide, you can defend yourself with automatic weapons.

[Oakvale]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

4 Aye
3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

No need to run and hide, you can defend yourself with automatic weapons.

Not that I'm any great fan of gun ownership, but it doesn't achieve much to ban assault rifles, really. How many crimes are committed with an AK?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

I veto.

Yay!

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

4 Aye
3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

No need to run and hide, you can defend yourself with automatic weapons.

^^^^