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« Reply #1375 on: November 27, 2010, 08:37:30 pm »
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Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

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3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

No need to run and hide, you can defend yourself with automatic weapons. Smiley

Not that I'm any great fan of gun ownership, but it doesn't achieve much to ban assault rifles, really. How many crimes are committed with an AK? Tongue

I don't know, want to find out?   Tongue

We could ask some people in Mexico City, maybe they will know. 
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« Reply #1376 on: November 27, 2010, 09:47:14 pm »
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I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  Tongue

It's been an honor, I guess. 
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« Reply #1377 on: November 28, 2010, 04:23:21 am »
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I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  Tongue

It's been an honor, I guess. 

We'll miss you. Smiley
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« Reply #1378 on: November 28, 2010, 01:26:44 pm »
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I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  Tongue

It's been an honor, I guess. 


You served well with your mighty gavel of justice. Smiley
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« Reply #1379 on: November 28, 2010, 02:21:03 pm »
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I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  Tongue

It's been an honor, I guess. 

This is unexpected, and deeply disappointing.  Sad

Thank you for your genuinely distinguished service, and good luck.
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« Reply #1380 on: November 28, 2010, 09:18:56 pm »
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Repeal of the Public Funding of Abortion Act

1. The Public Funding in Abortion Act is hereby repealed.

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just thought I'd bump this.
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« Reply #1381 on: November 29, 2010, 01:10:34 am »
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My final draft of the Legislation bill, incorporating various ideas given by all of you, as well as one of my own:

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The Pacific General Assembly Amendment

Whereas the Pacific Region has not had an organized legislature, this amendment hereby establishes The General Assembly, a bicarmeal legislative body known as the Pacific Council and Pacific Assembly.

Regarding the Pacific Supreme Council:

1.)  The Pacific Council will be in charge of drafting and approving legislation for ratification.  All legislation must by approved by the council by a simple majority.

2.)  It will be in charge of approving impeachment proceedings during specific circumstances.  All impeachment hearings are to be approved unanimously by the members of the Council.

3.)  The Council shall be composed of four members, to be elected via instant runoff voting.   The three candidates that recieve the most votes will compose the council.  All candidates must have at least 30 posts and have been living in the Pacific Region for at least 20 days.

4.)  Each council member's term will last for four months.  Every four months, two seats on the Council will be up for election.  No council member can serve more than three terms consecutively.  The term of each council member will begin and end the Friday following a Council election. The elections for the Council shall be held concurrently with either the Federal or Statewide elections in February, June, and October.

5.)  If a Councilor is inactive for twenty days without prior notice of absence, the Councilor is considered absentionist and the Council may vote whether or not to vacate the seat.

6.)  Should a vacancy occur the Governor shall nominate a replacement councilor.  The councilor must be approved by the Pacific Assembly in order to assume office.  The councilor will serve out their predeccesor's term until the next election, at which a special election will be held in order to determine who will serve out the remainder of the term.

7.)  The Lt. Governor will act as the Leader of the Council.  The duties of the Lt. Governor are now expanded to organizing and opening debate on proposed legislation within the Council, as well as supervising all Council activities.  They are also to break any tie that occurs among the Councilors.

Regarding the Pacific People's Assembly:

1.)  The Pacific Assembly will be in charge of voting and ratifying all legislation.  It will also be in charge of beginning impeachment proceedings.  All impeachments proceedings must be approved by 2/3rds of the vote.  All legislation may be ratified with a simple majority.

2.)  The Pacific Assembly will be composed of the citizens of the Pacific Region.  The Assembly will not have elections as every citizen is part of the assembly from the moment they become naturalized in the Pacific.

3.)  Pacific Councilors are not considered part of the Assembly as they have already voted on legislation.

Regarding Legislation:

1.)  The Pacific Council will draft legislation for the region.  It can also take bills proposed by citizens and approve the legislation for the Assembly to vote on.

2.)  The Leader of the Council (Lt. Governor) will take drafted and proposed legislation and open debate and voting on all bills within the Council sessions.  

3.)  The Council must have a majority vote in order to allow legislation to move to the Assembly.

4.)  The Assembly will vote to ratify all legislation that is proposed by the Council.  A majority is required to ratify any legislation.

5.)  The executive branch may veto legislation.  However, the Assembly can override a veto with a 2/3rds vote.

6.)  Should the Pacific Justice find any legislation passed unconstitutional, they must strike the law down with their banhammer of justice.
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« Reply #1382 on: November 29, 2010, 02:59:19 am »
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I would like to amend it from "Pacific Council" to "Pacific Supreme Council"
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« Reply #1383 on: November 29, 2010, 10:39:13 am »
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I would like to amend it from "Pacific Council" to "Pacific Supreme Council"

Only if you can come up with a cool name for the Assembly.Wink
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« Reply #1384 on: November 29, 2010, 11:12:45 am »
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The Pacific General Assembly Amendment : Aye
Repeal of the Public Funding of Abortion Act : Nay
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« Reply #1385 on: November 29, 2010, 12:29:48 pm »
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A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.
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« Reply #1386 on: November 29, 2010, 01:20:21 pm »
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Guys, guys, voting's not open yet. Chill.

As for the Public Funding of Abortion Act, I'll add my signature. I don't agree with the bill, and won't be voting for it, but I believe it should be at least put to a vote.

I'll open voting on both in a day or so. Smiley
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« Reply #1387 on: November 29, 2010, 01:57:48 pm »
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A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

I was wondering as to whether or not we should go with Jbrase's idea and put the whole Council up for a grabs (at-large style) every four months (concurrently with the Presidential elections).

As for the abolishment of my position, I think it's still useful in some way (Acting as a surrogate and historian for the region).

I agree with 2 and 5.
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« Reply #1388 on: November 29, 2010, 03:23:18 pm »
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I like the idea of one-third-at-time elections. Maybe though it could be 3 months instead of 6 as Xahar suggested.
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« Reply #1389 on: November 29, 2010, 03:45:16 pm »
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3 months would result in elections during odd-months, which I would rather avoid.

I would like to amend it from "Pacific Council" to "Pacific Supreme Council"

Only if you can come up with a cool name for the Assembly.Wink

How about the People's House, since we can all vote there? Grin
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« Reply #1390 on: November 29, 2010, 04:01:50 pm »
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A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

I was wondering as to whether or not we should go with Jbrase's idea and put the whole Council up for a grabs (at-large style) every four months (concurrently with the Presidential elections).

As for the abolishment of my position, I think it's still useful in some way (Acting as a surrogate and historian for the region).

I agree with 2 and 5.

When you think about it, there's really no need to have an odd number of members. Perhaps four members serving four-month terms, elected two at a time?

I think that the duties of the Lieutenant Governor would be better served folded into the position of President of the Legislative Council.
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« Reply #1391 on: November 29, 2010, 04:16:55 pm »
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Since the assembly is still every citizen of the Pacific, does that mean that a Councilor could still vote in the assembly as well as in the Council?
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« Reply #1392 on: November 29, 2010, 06:49:38 pm »
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Since the assembly is still every citizen of the Pacific, does that mean that a Councilor could still vote in the assembly as well as in the Council?

I would say that since the Councilor has technically voted already, they won't vote as part of the People's Assembly (Thanks Bgwah Smiley)

A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

I was wondering as to whether or not we should go with Jbrase's idea and put the whole Council up for a grabs (at-large style) every four months (concurrently with the Presidential elections).

As for the abolishment of my position, I think it's still useful in some way (Acting as a surrogate and historian for the region).

I agree with 2 and 5.

When you think about it, there's really no need to have an even number of members. Perhaps four members serving four-month terms, elected two at a time?

I think that the duties of the Lieutenant Governor would be better served folded into the position of President of the Legislative Council.

I like this idea.  Maybe we can simply combine the Lieutenant Governor and the President of the Council positions so that the position is meaningful.
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« Reply #1393 on: November 30, 2010, 02:31:14 am »
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The Cobain-Bieber Act of 2010

1. Effective immediately there shall be an additional 12% tax on;
A. Admission to Justin Bieber concerts.
B. Justin Bieber merchandise, including the buying of his "music" on itunes.

2. Justin Bieber is not the Kurt Cobain of his generation.

3. All music shops, and places that sell cd's shall be required to maintain a 20' distance between all Nirvana and Justin Bieber merchandise.

4. Money raised by this bill shall go to funding music programs in schools through out The Pacific.

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« Reply #1394 on: November 30, 2010, 05:12:32 am »
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1. Effective immediately there shall be an additional 12% tax on;
A. Admission to Justin Bieber concerts.
B. Justin Bieber merchandise, including the buying of his "music" on itunes.

2. Justin Bieber is not the Kurt Cobain of his generation.

3. All music shops, and places that sell cd's shall be required to maintain a 20' distance between all Nirvana and Justin Bieber merchandise.

4. Money raised by this bill shall go to funding music programs in schools through out The Pacific.

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We, the Pacific Justice, officially deem the Cobain-Bieber bill as unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Pacific Region expressly States that "The Pacific Region shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, or deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, or pass any bill of attainder or ex post facto law. " (III, 4). We consider that section 1 violates the bolded clause, at its provision singles out a specific person.

The Pacific Consitution also states that "The Pacific Region shall not abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (III, 2). We consider that deciding whether or not Justin Bieber is the new Kurt Kobain is a freedom of speech that belongs to each individual.
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« Reply #1395 on: November 30, 2010, 02:57:29 pm »
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1. Effective immediately there shall be an additional 12% tax on;
A. Admission to Justin Bieber concerts.
B. Justin Bieber merchandise, including the buying of his "music" on itunes.

2. Justin Bieber is not the Kurt Cobain of his generation.

3. All music shops, and places that sell cd's shall be required to maintain a 20' distance between all Nirvana and Justin Bieber merchandise.

4. Money raised by this bill shall go to funding music programs in schools through out The Pacific.

X Jbrase

We, the Pacific Justice, officially deem the Cobain-Bieber bill as unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Pacific Region expressly States that "The Pacific Region shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, or deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, or pass any bill of attainder or ex post facto law. " (III, 4). We consider that section 1 violates the bolded clause, at its provision singles out a specific person.

The Pacific Consitution also states that "The Pacific Region shall not abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (III, 2). We consider that deciding whether or not Justin Bieber is the new Kurt Kobain is a freedom of speech that belongs to each individual.

Excellent call.  

Some advise to Jbrase, you could simply put a small sin tax on CD's instead or something.  Wink
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« Reply #1396 on: November 30, 2010, 03:48:10 pm »
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I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow. Smiley
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« Reply #1397 on: November 30, 2010, 11:31:34 pm »
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I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow. Smiley

Wait until I revise the Legislature bill first.Tongue
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« Reply #1398 on: December 01, 2010, 01:31:21 pm »
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I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow. Smiley

Wait until I revise the Legislature bill first.Tongue

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« Reply #1399 on: December 01, 2010, 02:30:25 pm »
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I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow. Smiley

Wait until I revise the Legislature bill first.Tongue

Don't forget... SUPREME council. Got it? SUPREME. Tongue
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