Pacific Legislature Official Thread

[Fuzzybigfoot]

Ban of Automatic Weapons Act

4 Aye
3 Nay
2 (abstain)

I veto.

*runs and hides*


Oh, and hopefully I can open voting on the aforementioned latest amendment next week.

No need to run and hide, you can defend yourself with automatic weapons.

Not that I'm any great fan of gun ownership, but it doesn't achieve much to ban assault rifles, really. How many crimes are committed with an AK?

I don't know, want to find out?   

We could ask some people in Mexico City, maybe they will know. 

[Fuzzybigfoot]

I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  

It's been an honor, I guess. 

[Antonio the Sixth]

I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office. 

It's been an honor, I guess. 

We'll miss you.

[CatoMinor]

I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  

It's been an honor, I guess. 

You served well with your mighty gavel of justice.

[Oakvale]

I will be resigning from my post as Pacific Justice, effective immediately.  I would rather just be a Regional Activist.


And I am not resigning to run for another office.  

It's been an honor, I guess. 

This is unexpected, and deeply disappointing. 

Thank you for your genuinely distinguished service, and good luck.

[CatoMinor]

I'm introducing this bill. I honestly can't believe this crap is on the books.

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X realisticidealist

X Jbrase

just thought I'd bump this.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

My final draft of the Legislation bill, incorporating various ideas given by all of you, as well as one of my own:

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[bgwah]

I would like to amend it from "Pacific Council" to "Pacific Supreme Council"

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I would like to amend it from "Pacific Council" to "Pacific Supreme Council"

Only if you can come up with a cool name for the Assembly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The Pacific General Assembly Amendment : Aye
Repeal of the Public Funding of Abortion Act : Nay

[Хahar 🤔]

A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

[Oakvale]

Guys, guys, voting's not open yet. Chill.

As for the Public Funding of Abortion Act, I'll add my signature. I don't agree with the bill, and won't be voting for it, but I believe it should be at least put to a vote.

I'll open voting on both in a day or so.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

I was wondering as to whether or not we should go with Jbrase's idea and put the whole Council up for a grabs (at-large style) every four months (concurrently with the Presidential elections).

As for the abolishment of my position, I think it's still useful in some way (Acting as a surrogate and historian for the region).

I agree with 2 and 5.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I like the idea of one-third-at-time elections. Maybe though it could be 3 months instead of 6 as Xahar suggested.

[bgwah]

3 months would result in elections during odd-months, which I would rather avoid.

I would like to amend it from "Pacific Council" to "Pacific Supreme Council"

Only if you can come up with a cool name for the Assembly.

How about the People's House, since we can all vote there?

[Хahar 🤔]

A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

I was wondering as to whether or not we should go with Jbrase's idea and put the whole Council up for a grabs (at-large style) every four months (concurrently with the Presidential elections).

As for the abolishment of my position, I think it's still useful in some way (Acting as a surrogate and historian for the region).

I agree with 2 and 5.

When you think about it, there's really no need to have an odd number of members. Perhaps four members serving four-month terms, elected two at a time?

I think that the duties of the Lieutenant Governor would be better served folded into the position of President of the Legislative Council.

[CatoMinor]

Since the assembly is still every citizen of the Pacific, does that mean that a Councilor could still vote in the assembly as well as in the Council?

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Since the assembly is still every citizen of the Pacific, does that mean that a Councilor could still vote in the assembly as well as in the Council?

I would say that since the Councilor has technically voted already, they won't vote as part of the People's Assembly (Thanks Bgwah )

A few things:

1. Six months is too long. I would suggest making them three-month terms and having elections every month.
2. Members of the Council should not be part of the Assembly.
3. The Lieutenant Governorship should be abolished with the creation of the Council, as it's not really a useful office anyway.
4. The initial election should be held by STV. The top finisher should serve a full term, the second-place finisher should serve a two-month term (or four months, if we use six-month terms), and the third-place finisher should have the shortest term.
5. If a replacement Councilor is appointed, he should only serve until the next election.

I was wondering as to whether or not we should go with Jbrase's idea and put the whole Council up for a grabs (at-large style) every four months (concurrently with the Presidential elections).

As for the abolishment of my position, I think it's still useful in some way (Acting as a surrogate and historian for the region).

I agree with 2 and 5.

When you think about it, there's really no need to have an even number of members. Perhaps four members serving four-month terms, elected two at a time?

I think that the duties of the Lieutenant Governor would be better served folded into the position of President of the Legislative Council.

I like this idea.  Maybe we can simply combine the Lieutenant Governor and the President of the Council positions so that the position is meaningful.

[CatoMinor]

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X Jbrase

[Antonio the Sixth]

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X Jbrase

We, the Pacific Justice, officially deem the Cobain-Bieber bill as unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Pacific Region expressly States that "The Pacific Region shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, or deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, or pass any bill of attainder or ex post facto law. " (III, 4). We consider that section 1 violates the bolded clause, at its provision singles out a specific person.

The Pacific Consitution also states that "The Pacific Region shall not abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (III, 2). We consider that deciding whether or not Justin Bieber is the new Kurt Kobain is a freedom of speech that belongs to each individual.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

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X Jbrase

We, the Pacific Justice, officially deem the Cobain-Bieber bill as unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Pacific Region expressly States that "The Pacific Region shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, or deny to any person the equal protection of the laws, or pass any bill of attainder or ex post facto law. " (III, 4). We consider that section 1 violates the bolded clause, at its provision singles out a specific person.

The Pacific Consitution also states that "The Pacific Region shall not abridge the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." (III, 2). We consider that deciding whether or not Justin Bieber is the new Kurt Kobain is a freedom of speech that belongs to each individual.

Excellent call.  

Some advise to Jbrase, you could simply put a small sin tax on CD's instead or something.  

[Oakvale]

I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow.

Wait until I revise the Legislature bill first.

[Oakvale]

I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow.

Wait until I revise the Legislature bill first.

[bgwah]

I'm gonna open voting on a final version of the legislature thing, Antonio's nomination as Pacific Justice, and so on tomorrow.

Wait until I revise the Legislature bill first.

Don't forget... SUPREME council. Got it? SUPREME.