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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 11, 2005, 10:57:01 AM »

Great stuff, very much in the same vein of my post a few days ago about the insane partisanship by the usual suspects.  I'd love to hear the scoop on what went down on the inside.  Good to see you back on the block.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2005, 10:58:40 AM »

Oh, and opebo hasn't cahnged one bit actually.  He's the same selfish bastard he always was, he just has changed his mind on what serves his own self interest.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


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E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2005, 01:49:33 AM »

After Hurricane Katrina, I started to wonder whether or not the posters on this forum (which I left long ago and very rarely read anymore) would be so low as to inject partisan politics into a national tragedy, so I spent much of the past week reading many of the threads I missed. While many of you on both sides of the political aisle did the honorable thing and put partisan politics aside in talking about the Hurricane, there were, as expected, the usual vermin who engaged in the political version of looting by attempting to score political points at this time of national tragedy.

And so I urge you all to put aside your political ideology for at least the short term and focus on the fact that you are an American


Great!





and our new home is what the wacko left wingers derisively refer to as a "McMansion"

 I probably won't be around the forum for more than a day or so since I long ago grew tired of engaging in political debate with 18 year old leftists who know NOTHING about the real world, but it was nice dropping in to say my peace on this special day.

Oh, nevermind.

You are illiterate.

Mark Del said that no one should politicize the disaster, but he did not direct his criticism of liberals to their handling of the disaster.  He directed it to their views on suburban sprawl first, and their general attitude towards life second.  So there's no hypocrisy at all.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


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E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 03:02:58 PM »

Mark is the real deal, I suggest that you try to learn from his wisdom.  The particular instance when he did inform me on something that was going on that was nto reported in the media, everything he said would happen did, or, at least, I could see that it had, since the media did not reprt what he had disclosed to me in full.

Correct me if I'm wrong here but Mr Del worked for his local Congressman in DC.  Now he owns a small publishing company in Florida.  While I agree that he probably has better insights into "how Washington works" ... I find it very hard to buy that he "knows the real scoop" about what happened with NOLA.

Maybe I'm just a cynic but I just don't believe everything I read on the internet.

This post is pure spin, taking things that are true and phrasing them in such a way as to minimize the credibility of your opponents, through selective language and strategic omission.  Typical Wakie.  You even manage to lie when you're telling the truth.

He worked for his "local Congressman".  What exactly is that?  A Congressman's district has 700,000 or so people, while it may have included Mark's local area, it wasn't like the guy was a small town dog catcher.  What, do you think the guy lived down the street and its like a 14 year old getting a job mowing his neighbors lawn?

Maark doesn't know everything, none of us do.  But he knows a lot of people.  When you know people, you know things.  Take what he says  for what its worth, and if you think he's wrong give actual reasons not spin.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2005, 01:36:04 AM »

This post is pure spin, taking things that are true and phrasing them in such a way as to minimize the credibility of your opponents, through selective language and strategic omission.  Typical Wakie.  You even manage to lie when you're telling the truth.

Nice inflammatory beginning.  Typical Ford.  Someone states basic facts and offers some opinion and you say they are lying.  You have a definite future in politics.

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How many members of Congress are there?  535 (435 reps, 100 senators).  How many people work for each one?  Let's be conservative and say 20 in each office.  This means that at any given time there are 10,700 people with the same access that Mark had over 10 years ago.  Now keep in mind that there is turnover when people leave their jobs or members of Congress retire or lose an election.

Geez, how do we maintain ANY secrets in this country?!

Not every member of Congress has access to every piece of info.  But Mark, 10 year removed Congressional employee, 2 weeks after something happens, is able to get info which the national press corps cannot get.

I guess I just find it a little unlikely, ok?  You go ahead and believe it though.  Everyone is welcome to make up their own minds.

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Well ... if he told us what it was (not just say "I know the truth no one is telling you") then I could provide reasons for why I agree or disagree.  But as it is ... I just think the story that he has some secret sources into some unknown truth to be unlikely.

Thanks, I too think I have a future in politics.

We pretty much don't maintain secrets in this country.

Given that his predicitions have usually been borne out, and are substatiated by information readily available to the public (Including the shocking revelations about Sandy Berger which are corroborated by information that came out 11 years ago in the major media, but simply required the insider information to be properly pieced together).
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