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A18
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« on: September 13, 2005, 07:21:57 AM »

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A18
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2005, 05:27:42 PM »

I'm not 100% sure how this can be asserted, unless you have a very different definition of "just" than I do. To give another example aside from what I stated above, in pure capitalism, lying for the purposes of getting others' money would be a perfectly legitimate exercise.

Pure capitalism is economic activity free from coersion. I suppose lying isn't necessarily 'coercive' by strict definition, but its effect is the same. You're essentially taking someone's property without his consent.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2005, 09:02:26 PM »

In capitalism, no exchange takes place unless both parties believe they benefit.

A country does not treat its citizens right by making them slaves to each other.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 09:08:03 PM »

What does that have to do with what I said? Democratic or not, socialism makes slaves out of citizens.

Of course, all taxation is involuntary servitude, and undesirable for that reason alone. But it can at least be justified if it goes toward the prevention of greater coercion.
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2005, 10:57:12 PM »

How old are you? Three?

Socialism forces citizens to work for other people. Capitalism is based on voluntary cooperation. This isn't some kind of debatable point; it's fact.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2005, 11:13:17 PM »
« Edited: September 13, 2005, 11:25:17 PM by A18 »

I'm just kidding. It's for effect.

Anyway, socialism has people work for others. In your brand of socialism, people work for the 'basic needs' of others. It is, in either case, a philosophy based on coercion.

How do corporations "cheat" exactly?
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