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RBH
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1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Ford in Blue
Reagan in Red
And the Mississippi result was due to Reagan picking Richard Schweiker as his VP candidate.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Interesting, but I wonder why Schweiker (of Pennsylvania) caused Mississippi to go for Ford instead of Reagan?
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Quote from: Joe Republic on September 16, 2005, 06:50:48 pm
Interesting, but I wonder why Schweiker (of Pennsylvania) caused Mississippi to go for Ford instead of Reagan?
I can't remember the details, but it some type of backroom political deal made at the convention. President Ford described it in his memoirs, which I read years ago and no longer have, otherwise I would look it up.
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Schweiker was a liberal Republican from Pennsylvania, and Reagan picking him alienated Conservatives, who in a well-thought-out scheme decided to switch to Ford at the convention
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Mass and Michigan were less pro Frod than Ohio and PA?
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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MA: 28-15 Ford
MI: 55-29 Ford
OH: 91-6 Ford
PA: 93-10 Ford
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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The head of the Mississippi delegation clarke Reed had promised to deliver for Reagan but switched at the last moment because of a convention rule called 16-C which allowed Reagan to pick Schweiker.
Dick Cheney had a role in it too.
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Quote from: RBH on September 16, 2005, 06:11:21 pm
Ford in Blue
Reagan in Red
Interestingly, this map looks much more similar to the 2004 result than the 1976 General Election.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Quote from: nclib on September 16, 2005, 10:49:51 pm
Quote from: RBH on September 16, 2005, 06:11:21 pm
Ford in Blue
Reagan in Red
Interestingly, this map looks much more similar to the 2004 result than the 1976 General Election.
Huh?
Well, except for CA, WA, ND, KS, MS, FL, IA, OH, WV, and KY, yes.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Ford won the NE at the convention...but the West in the General.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Quote from: nclib on September 16, 2005, 10:49:51 pm
Quote from: RBH on September 16, 2005, 06:11:21 pm
Ford in Blue
Reagan in Red
Interestingly, this map looks much more similar to the 2004 result than the 1976 General Election.
True, in a way. Ford was stronger in areas where Republicans are weaker. It was a sign that he had problems with the Republican base, which Reagan exploited in his challenge to Ford for the nomination. These problems with the base hurt him in the general election, especially since Carter passed himself off as a moderate, and some disgruntled Republicans viewed him as an acceptable alternative.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Where did you get this map?
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So it really was up to Mississippi in the end? If they had gone the other way, Reagan would have been our nominee?
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on September 17, 2005, 11:05:38 am
So it really was up to Mississippi in the end? If they had gone the other way, Reagan would have been our nominee?
What makes you say that?
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Quote from: A18 on September 17, 2005, 11:34:35 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on September 17, 2005, 11:05:38 am
So it really was up to Mississippi in the end? If they had gone the other way, Reagan would have been our nominee?
What makes you say that?
I remember seeing a special by Chris Matthews saying something about that and I guess since that Mississippi was noted here it determined the outcome.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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I'm not sure how many votes the Mississippi delegation had, but Ford's margin of victory was only 117 votes. Perhaps if Reagan had picked a more mainstream running mate instead of the liberal Schweiker, he probably could have pulled it off. Schweiker didn't help him at all in the Northeast anyway, which is the only place where he would have helped.
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Here's a site which provides a lot of details.
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=6661
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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Another point:
Of the states where Reagan received a majority of the delegate vote, in all except Washington he did better (as a percentage of the vote) against Carter in 1980 that Furd did in 1976.
On the other hand, of the states where Furd received a majority of the delegates, in a majority of the states Reagan did better (as a percentage of the vote) against Carter in 1980 than Ford did in 1976.
Here is a comparison:
Ford Reagan
Alaska Delaware
Connecticut Florida
District of Columbia Iowa
Hawaii Kansas
Illinois Kentucky
Maine Massachusetts
Maryland Minnesota
Michigan Mississippi
New York New Jersey
Oregon New Hampshire
Rhode Island North Dakota
Vermont Ohio
Pennsylvania
West Virginia
Wisconsin
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Re: 1976 Map of Reagan/Ford split amongst delegates
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October 24, 2005, 11:20:24 am »
Anybody feel like producing results from a 1976 Reagan/Carter election? How would the South have voted?
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Quote from: memphis on October 24, 2005, 11:20:24 am
Anybody feel like producing results from a 1976 Reagan/Carter election? How would the South have voted?
They have a history of supporting horrible choices, except for Clinton maybe.
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