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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: September 20, 2005, 07:25:51 AM »

Nazi-hunter Wiesenthal dies at 96
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2005, 08:21:32 AM »

A very sad loss but a life well worth commemorating

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2005, 12:43:37 PM »

A very sad loss but a life well worth commemorating

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I agree. A brave person
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2005, 01:00:29 PM »

That's sad. He did a great job. Still, I guess everyone has to go at some point, and he did get to be very old.

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2005, 01:16:25 PM »

Good man, who lived a long life with a purpose.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2005, 01:39:13 PM »

Way to kick Nazi ass, Simon. Go out in pride. Cool
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2005, 09:25:16 PM »

A great man who devoted his life to hunt down the worse criminals the world has ever seen. He will be missed.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2005, 09:39:19 PM »

Amen to a fine men. May he rest in peace after his fantastic life.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2005, 12:11:27 AM »

He will truly be missed.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2005, 12:11:57 AM »

Finally.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2005, 01:37:37 AM »

Roll Eyes quelle surprise
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2005, 09:04:26 AM »

A great man who devoted his life to hunt down the worse criminals the world has ever seen. He will be missed.

Coming from someone with such a bigoted, hateful sig, anyone normal should consider that an insult.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2005, 11:33:34 AM »

A great man who devoted his life to hunt down the worse criminals the world has ever seen. He will be missed.

Coming from someone with such a bigoted, hateful sig, anyone normal should consider that an insult.

Lets consider your statement based on my sig. It is true that the Palestinians want control of Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem and I'm in favor of such a move. I feal the only peace that can exist between Israel and the Palestinians is if an independent Palestinian state is formed. However, I wouldn't give the Palestinians Jerusalem, nor would I give it to Israel. Jerusalem should be its own city state much like the Vatican, but open to all faiths. Having the Israelis control one half and the Palestinians controling the other leads only to possible conflict. Now I know I don't post much, but to claim that I am bigoted, hateful and unsympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians is just plain lazy. I've always supported a free and independent Palestinian state.
The sig itself is in regards to Palestinian terror groups. I'll assume that you understand the difference between a terror group and an everyday Palestinian. However, given your reply I could be wrong. Do you not agree that groups like Hamas and Hezbollah not only want control of the before mentioned territories, but the complete destuction of Israel? I'm curious to your answer, because that is what the sig is referring to. Is it because you want Israel destroyed? Are you anti-semitic, or perhaps a combination of both?
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2005, 12:07:18 PM »


LOL
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2005, 01:25:24 PM »


It would probably be funnier if he didn't actually believe it.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2005, 01:28:28 PM »

OK, he was a talented writer, I grant that (though specific to his genre).

Since he himself was a Soviet partisan, not a "Holocaust survivor," probably his work was properly classified as historical fiction (based on real events but in a fictional context).
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2005, 02:05:19 PM »

Roll Eyes

You still keep denying you're a fascist?

As for Simon, good antifa man. Great job fighting fascism, the greatest evil ever, which must always be exterminated and never tolerated under any circumstances whatsoever. He got a good very long life though. RIP.
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2005, 02:11:57 PM »


I believe he prefers "Neo Nazi" Wink
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2005, 02:18:06 PM »

Braver than any of us will ever be.
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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2005, 02:36:11 PM »


Quit it with the leftie hyperbole.
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2005, 02:37:06 PM »


What else do you call someone who is calling this guy a liar, thinks he was wrong for hunting down Nazi war criminals, and says the Allies were the true aggressors of WWII?
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2005, 03:53:53 PM »

OK, he was a talented writer, I grant that (though specific to his genre).

Since he himself was a Soviet partisan, not a "Holocaust survivor," probably his work was properly classified as historical fiction (based on real events but in a fictional context).
As said before, this would be sort of funny, if it wasn't for the fact that you actually believe it - that just makes it sad
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2005, 04:13:13 PM »


What else do you call someone who is calling this guy a liar, thinks he was wrong for hunting down Nazi war criminals, and says the Allies were the true aggressors of WWII?

He never said any of that. Quit putting words in his mouth.
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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2005, 06:58:39 PM »

Thank you SR.

It is true, I never called the Allies "aggressors," and also I did not say Wiesenthal was "wrong" to do what he did, and also I did not say he was a liar. He did describe things he did not personally witness, so certainly there is an element of mistruth in his work.

Does it take great courage and honor to spend other people's money to find Germans conscripted into service as 18-year olds? No, not at all. Wiesenthal, in his everlasting quest for vengeance-- against Nazis real or imagined-- has only served to perpetuate anti-Semitism.

And to back him, of course, the Western governments passed ex post facto laws to make being a National Socialist a crime even though it was not a crime up until the end of WW2. He thus did a disservice to the law, as well as the truth.

He is someone to be admired by ignorant sheeple, little else.
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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2005, 07:27:16 PM »

Thank you SR.

It is true, I never called the Allies "aggressors," and also I did not say Wiesenthal was "wrong" to do what he did, and also I did not say he was a liar. He did describe things he did not personally witness, so certainly there is an element of mistruth in his work.

Considering that he was in no less than twelve concentration camps, five of which were death camps, that he took part in a death march to Austria, and that he and his wife lost, in total, 89 relatives due to the Holocaust, exactly how much more experience would you like a person to have before writing about this topic?

Wiesenthal, in his everlasting quest for vengeance-- against Nazis real or imagined-- has only served to perpetuate anti-Semitism.

Anti-Semitism would have been stamped out had no one tried to bring Nazis to justice?
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