death penalty roll call

[jokerman]

make prisons safer, more livable, and more pleasant places

Only Opebo could support rewarding criminals.

[opebo]

make prisons safer, more livable, and more pleasant places

Only Opebo could support rewarding criminals.

No, Prude Kramer, that is not what I advocated.  I advocated proper stewardship of our responsibility to those citizens upon whom we presume to use force as a society.  If we presume to imprison them for practical purposes - such as our safety - we should at least refrain from the patent fallacy of calling them 'bad' persons, or suggesting they 'deserve' ill treatment.  Such is an appeal to objective morality, which is of course nothing more than a spurious claim about ones own subjective preference. 

Of course in a society in which these poor were not allowed to fall to such levels of degredation as are typical in the United States, there would be very little crime.  See for example many Western European countries.

[dazzleman]

make prisons safer, more livable, and more pleasant places

Only Opebo could support rewarding criminals.

No, Prude Kramer, that is not what I advocated.  I advocated proper stewardship of our responsibility to those citizens upon whom we presume to use force as a society.  If we presume to imprison them for practical purposes - such as our safety - we should at least refrain from the patent fallacy of calling them 'bad' persons, or suggesting they 'deserve' ill treatment.  Such is an appeal to objective morality, which is of course nothing more than a spurious claim about ones own subjective preference. 

Of course in a society in which these poor were not allowed to fall to such levels of degredation as are typical in the United States, there would be very little crime.  See for example many Western European countries.

I have a subjective preference against those who murder and rob people.

[opebo]

I have a subjective preference against those who murder and rob people.

Of course you do!  As do most.  So it is only reasonable for you to all band together and jail, lynch, or otherwise apply force to those who do such activities.  It is, however, quite presumptuous and nonsensical for you to claim that murder and so forth are 'wrong'.

[jokerman]

make prisons safer, more livable, and more pleasant places

Only Opebo could support rewarding criminals.

No, Prude Kramer, that is not what I advocated.  I advocated proper stewardship of our responsibility to those citizens upon whom we presume to use force as a society.  If we presume to imprison them for practical purposes - such as our safety - we should at least refrain from the patent fallacy of calling them 'bad' persons, or suggesting they 'deserve' ill treatment.  Such is an appeal to objective morality, which is of course nothing more than a spurious claim about ones own subjective preference. 

Of course in a society in which these poor were not allowed to fall to such levels of degredation as are typical in the United States, there would be very little crime.  See for example many Western European countries.

Why does the fact I think we should punish those who commit crimes make me a prude?

[dazzleman]

I have a subjective preference against those who murder and rob people.

Of course you do!  As do most.  So it is only reasonable for you to all band together and jail, lynch, or otherwise apply force to those who do such activities.  It is, however, quite presumptuous and nonsensical for you to claim that murder and so forth are 'wrong'.

right.......Your argument speaks for itself.

[Colin]

Support in cases of terrorism, treason, crimes against humanity, and first degree murder.

[jokerman]

I have a subjective preference against those who murder and rob people.

Of course you do!  As do most.  So it is only reasonable for you to all band together and jail, lynch, or otherwise apply force to those who do such activities.  It is, however, quite presumptuous and nonsensical for you to claim that murder and so forth are 'wrong'.

waiting for this to go in someone's signature...........................

[opebo]

make prisons safer, more livable, and more pleasant places

Only Opebo could support rewarding criminals.

No, Prude Kramer, that is not what I advocated.  I advocated proper stewardship of our responsibility to those citizens upon whom we presume to use force as a society.  If we presume to imprison them for practical purposes - such as our safety - we should at least refrain from the patent fallacy of calling them 'bad' persons, or suggesting they 'deserve' ill treatment.  Such is an appeal to objective morality, which is of course nothing more than a spurious claim about ones own subjective preference. 

Of course in a society in which these poor were not allowed to fall to such levels of degredation as are typical in the United States, there would be very little crime.  See for example many Western European countries.

Why does the fact I think we should punish those who commit crimes make me a prude?

That's just your general nickname, prude.

[Smash255]

Opposed.  Bottom line system isn't perfect.  You can set free someone who is wrongly convicted, you can't do that to someone who is dead.  All murder cases should have life without the possibility of parole

[True Democrat]

Opposed except for terrorists and mass murders, such as the BTK killer

[Middle-aged Europe]

im opposed to the death penalty in all cases.

Agree.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

I oppose the death penalty in all circumstances

[minionofmidas]

Third sentence in my signature. Says it all really.

[Blue Rectangle]

I generally support the death penalty.

[CheeseWhiz]

I’m completely opposed to it.

[A18]

Third sentence in my signature. Says it all really.

So do you oppose jail sentences, or would you like to be thrown in jail?

[WMS]

Mixed and ambivalent opinion here. I DO think it is over-used, especially in places like Texas - come on, I've read about the Texas judicial system before, and that sucker is pretty damn biased against poor people (the defendant who got a public defender who slept - literally - through the entire trial but was told he received adequate counsel - !), but I'm not quite ready to say it should never be used.

Cavaet: If you replace death with life imprisonment, you know what? That means stick them in solitary until they die. Period. No parole. No getting to abuse other prisoners (which is what the worst prisoners DO, so that jail time is like a vacation for them). And definitely no freebies like cable TV or workout rooms or crap like that. No abuse, but no coddling either. S-O-L-I-T-A-R-Y, damnit! I'm sure the ACLU would promptly bitch at me for that, but to them...

[Flying Dog]

No, but im tempted to say yes because all the criminals in jail for life are taking our money because we have to feed, and house them