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« on: May 03, 2004, 02:36:18 am »
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Okay this was an idea I had and I wasn't sure if this belongs in the "What if?" section or here.

Basically what I wanted to do is make a President Forever candidate for everyone at this forum(who partcipates) then I will run everyone against a character I have created named Punching Bag a basic political fool and an aabsolute extreamist for the party he's with, with a 1 in every stat and a VP who only provides +1 experience and both the running mates will be from a state which is a stronghold for their party Hawaii for Dem.s and Alaska for Rep.s) Then based upon the electoral scores of the atlas candidates we will enter a playoff of sorts(top scoring dem v lowest scoring rep, etc and visa versa)

Now if for example we only have 8 candidates representing the 2 parties and the Dems win all the match ups the two dem.s with the lowest score will be knocked out and the two highest scoring Rep.s will advance...

Now because there is no UAC in the game your political party for this game must be either Rep. or Dem.

if you wish to join this game answer the following and read everything carefully

Party:Rep or Dem

First Name:

Last Name:This will be your nickname unless your first name is your nickname then well feel free to make up a last name

Home State

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 1-5
Charisma 1-5
Integrity 1-5
Stamina 1-5
Experience 1-5
Debating 1-5
Issue Knowledge 1-5

The VP bonus you get(choose an attribute to increase except for Debating or Stamina) and your VP's home state

Now choose your platform the first answer to all of these is the Left stance followed by the Center-Left stance then the centerist stance, then the center right stance, then the right stance.
//Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.
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//Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.
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//Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.
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//Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation.
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.
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//Campaign Finance Reform
Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform!
We need to significantly reduce corporate donations.
We need to put more power into smaller donors' hands.
The McCain/Feingold bill is sufficient.
No campaign finance reform is needed.
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//Ecology
The environment must be our first national priority.
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.
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//Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.
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//Free Trade
We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!
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//Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!
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//Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Homosexuals need to be treated for their condition.
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//Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!
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//Military Funding
Drastically cut military funding, establish a Department of Peace.
We should decrease military funding.
Keep military budget the same, look to be more efficient.
Increase the military budget, but find ways to be more efficient.
We need to significantly increase military funding to meet new threats.
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//Military Intervention
Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'.
For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked.
Only if we are attacked.
Only if our national interests are threatened.
We can and should use our military might to further our own interests.
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//Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.
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//Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.
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//Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.
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//Social Security
No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.
No to private investment, increase funding.
Keep social security as it is.
Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments.
Let workers privately invest all social security payments.
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//Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.
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Okay thats it I will also post my answer to the questions after this.
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2004, 02:49:13 am »
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Party:Rep.
First name:Michael R.
Last name:Larkin
Home State: California
Leadership-4
Charisma-5
Integrity-4
Stamina-4
Experience-2
Debating-3
Issue Knowledge-3

VP Name:Tom Ridge
VP Bonus:Experience
VP Home State:PA

Abortion:Center
AA:Center-Right
Balanced Buget:Center Right
Business Tax:Center-Right
Campiagn Finance Reform:Center-Right
Ecology:Center-Right
Education:Right
Free Trade:Center-Right
Gun Control:Center-Right
Same Sex Marriage:Center
Immigration:Center
Military Funding:Center Right
Military Intervention:Center Right
Personal Tax:Center Right
Public Health Care:Center
Renwable Energy:Center
Social Security: Center Right
Terrorism:Center-Right
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2004, 03:05:18 am »
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great idea Smiley

Governor Hugh Bartlett of Iowa, aged 61

L: 4
C: 3
I: 3
S: 4
E: 5
D: 3
IK: 3

My VP's attribute is Charisma, and her name is Paula O'Brien, I'd like them to be from Maryland, I think that is heavy enough Democrat, but Hawaii would be OK. Ideally they'd be from Florida, but I think that is a bit unfair.

My positions (I am uninformed on some of the issues, like affirmative actioan and education, as the australian system is very different, but i've basically domne what i thought was right):

Abortion: Centrist
Affirmative Action: CL
Balanced Budget: In Australia I am center left-increase spending, but more efficiently. But as I am opposed to military spending increases, I'll say centrist.
Business Tax: CL
CFR: Faaaaaar left
Ecology: Centrist
Education: Centrist
Free Trade: Centrist
Gun Control: CL
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Immigration: Left
Military Funding: CL
Military Intervention: CL. You would have to be insane to argue against me on that issue, I will tear your head off Wink
Personal Tax: CL (Hey, I'm a leftwinger)
PHC: Left. It works here, I could get it to work there if  was president Wink
Renewable energy: CL
Social Security: I'm not sure of the current situation in the US, so Centrist.
Terrorism: Centrist

Just clarifying, I would like my VP to be from Florida, be OK with her being from MD, and put up with her being from Hawaii
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2004, 03:08:20 am »
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ooh, run me against you Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2004, 05:13:08 am »
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Peter
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VP
Leadership
Florida

3
3
4
4
3
4
4

L
CR
C
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
L
L
CL
CL
CL
L
CL
CL
CL
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2004, 07:57:52 am »
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I'll get mine up later... Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2004, 10:17:04 am »
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*bump* keep them coming... and we need more reps!
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2004, 03:12:23 pm »
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North Carolina

V.P.
Gov. Jeb Bush
Florida
+1 Leadership
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4
4
3
5
3


CR
R
C
C
L
CR
R
C
CR
CR
C
R
C
CR
C
C
CR
R
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2004, 03:26:55 pm »
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Party: Democrat
Title: Former Governor
Name: David Holland
State: New York
Age: 37


VP

Name: Martin Brodeur
HomeState: Minnesota
Integrity+1

4
3
2
5
2
4
4

C
C
CR
CL
CR
CL
CL
R
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
CL
C
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CL



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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2004, 03:37:25 pm »
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when will we know more on this election thing?
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party: democrat
title: former mayor
state: Maryland
name: kevin slattery
age: 35

VP: John Wrywas
VP attribute: issue knowledge
VP home state: georgia

4
3
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3
3
3


abortion: CL
AA: CR
balanaced budget: CR
business tax:
CFR: CL
ecology: C
education: CL
free trade: CR
gun control: C
same sex marriage: CL
immigration: C
military funding: CL
military intervention: C
public health: CL
renewable energy: L
soc sec: C
terrorism: C
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i dont know, but i've been told
that a yankee politician ain't got no soul
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2004, 04:10:28 pm »
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There are too many democrats.  More Republicans need to sign up
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2004, 04:35:10 pm »
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Party:Rep

First Name:  Chris

Last Name: Supersoulty

Home State: Pennsylvania

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 5
Charisma 3
Integrity 4
Stamina 4
Experience 3
Debating 3
Issue Knowledge 3

VP Name: Jennifer Petersen
The VP bonus:  Experience
The VP homestate: Illinois

Now choose your platform the first answer to all of these is the Left stance followed by the Center-Left stance then the centerist stance, then the center right stance, then the right stance.
//Abortion-CR

//Affirmative Action-CR

//Balanced Budget-C

//Business Tax-CR

//Campaign Finance Reform-C

//Ecology-C

//Education-CR

//Free Trade-CR

//Gun Control-CR

//Same-Sex Marriage-C

//Immigration-CL

//Military Funding-CR

//Military Intervention-CR

//Personal Tax-CR

/Public Health Care-C

//Renewable Energy-C

//Social Security-CR

//Terrorism-CR

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Name: Gustaf Lundgren

Party: Democrat

Home State: Minnesota

Title: Governor

Age: 45

Leadership: 4

Charisma: 3

Integrity: 3

Stamina: 4

Experience: 2

Debating: 4

Issue Knowledge: 5


VP: John Edwards

VP Home State: North Carolina

Abortion: C

AA: R

Balanced Budget: CR

Busniess tax: C

CFR: CL

Ecology: C

Education: R

Free Trade: R

Gun Control: CL

Same-Sex Marriage: CL

Immigration: L

Military Funding: C

Military Intervention: CL

Personal Tax: C

PHC: CL

Renewable Energy: CL

Social Security: CR

Terrorism: CR

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This place really has become a cesspool of degenerate whores...

Economic score: +0.9
Social score: -2.61

In MN for fantasy stuff, member of the most recently dissolved centrist party.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2004, 05:08:13 pm »
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If you download the game do you have to buy it?
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No, you can download the demo, but then you need to change the start date of the campaign to a later date to stop the game ending before the actual election
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2004, 05:23:18 pm »
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ok thanks
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2004, 05:42:55 pm »
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So wildcard when will you start the game?
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2004, 05:49:49 pm »
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So wildcard when will you start the game?

Probably after more people get their stats up there...I'd guess...
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2004, 05:53:11 pm »
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oh ok cool
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2004, 10:30:58 pm »
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Oh, I'll bite...

Name: William Slayn (not my real one obviously Wink but that is where the 'S' in WMS comes from)
Party: Rep (for these purposes Smiley )
Home State: New Mexico

Leadership: 3
Charisma: 3
Integrity: 5
Stamina: 3
Experience: 3
Debating: 3
Issue Knowledge: 5

VP Bonus: Leadership
VP State: Missouri

Abortion: CR

Affirmative Action: R

Balanced Budget: R (deficit hawk ho!)

Business Tax: CR

Campaign Finance Reform: C

Ecology: C

Education: R

Free Trade: L

Gun Control: CR

Same-Sex Marriage: C

Immigration: C

Military Funding:CR

Military Intervention: CR

Personal Tax: CR

Public Health Care: CL

Renewable Energy: C

Social Security: CR

Terrorism: CR

I wonder how I'll do... Huh
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Party:Dem

First Name:Tony

Last Name:Roberts (not real)

Home State: Maryland

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 4
Charisma 3
Integrity 4
Stamina 4
Experience 2
Debating 4
Issue Knowledge 4

VP: Blanche Lincoln, +1 issue knowledge
VP Home State: Arkansas

Abortion: CL
Affirmative Action: CR
Balanced Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Campaign Finance Reform: CL
Ecology: CL
Education: C
Free Trade: CR
Gun Control: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Immigration: CL
Military Funding: CL
Military Intervention: CL
Personal Tax: CL
Public Health Care: CL
Renewable Energy: CL
Social Security: CR
Terrorism: L - just kidding. CL
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Party: Rep/GOP
First Name: Richard
Middle: G.
Last: Arage (an assumed name obviously)
Homestate: Pennsylvania

Richard G. Arage
Leadership: 4
Charisma: 5
Intergrity: 4
Stamina: 3
Experience: 2
Debating: 4
Issue Knowledge: 3

VP Selection: Arizona (Ie McCain), Experience

Abortion-Center
Affirmative Action-Center
Balanced Budget-Center Right
Business Tax-Center Right
Campaign Finance Reform-Center
Ecology-Center
Vouchers-Center
Free Trade-Right
Gun Control-Center
Same Sex Marriage-Center Left
Immigration-Center Left
Military Funding-Center
Military Intervention-Center
Personal Tax-Center Right
Public Health Care-Center
Renewable Energy-Center
Social Security-Center Right
Terrorism-Center
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A Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative NE Republican with some Left-Libertarian/3rd Way Leanings. Simply, a Rockefeller Republican.

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Dying bread of Americans.
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2004, 05:55:16 pm »
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Funny I just tried out this senerio useing the stats I posted against Gov. Punchin Bagg and this was the result that I came up with:




Supersoulty: 495  57%

Bagg: 43  42%

I won New York, Connecticut, New Jersey and Marlyland, but lost Kansas!!!!!!!!!!!   Stupid governors bonus.
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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2004, 06:28:47 pm »
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is there a multiplayer version of the game?
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