(You don't need the game to sign up!)President Forever Atlas Champions...

[TheWildCard]

Okay this was an idea I had and I wasn't sure if this belongs in the "What if?" section or here.

Basically what I wanted to do is make a President Forever candidate for everyone at this forum(who partcipates) then I will run everyone against a character I have created named Punching Bag a basic political fool and an aabsolute extreamist for the party he's with, with a 1 in every stat and a VP who only provides +1 experience and both the running mates will be from a state which is a stronghold for their party Hawaii for Dem.s and Alaska for Rep.s) Then based upon the electoral scores of the atlas candidates we will enter a playoff of sorts(top scoring dem v lowest scoring rep, etc and visa versa)

Now if for example we only have 8 candidates representing the 2 parties and the Dems win all the match ups the two dem.s with the lowest score will be knocked out and the two highest scoring Rep.s will advance...

Now because there is no UAC in the game your political party for this game must be either Rep. or Dem.

if you wish to join this game answer the following and read everything carefully

Party:Rep or Dem

First Name:

Last Name:This will be your nickname unless your first name is your nickname then well feel free to make up a last name

Home State

Now choose your attributes(you only get to use 25 points)
Leadership 1-5
Charisma 1-5
Integrity 1-5
Stamina 1-5
Experience 1-5
Debating 1-5
Issue Knowledge 1-5

The VP bonus you get(choose an attribute to increase except for Debating or Stamina) and your VP's home state

Now choose your platform the first answer to all of these is the Left stance followed by the Center-Left stance then the centerist stance, then the center right stance, then the right stance.
//Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.
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//Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.
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//Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.
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//Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation.
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.
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//Campaign Finance Reform
Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform!
We need to significantly reduce corporate donations.
We need to put more power into smaller donors' hands.
The McCain/Feingold bill is sufficient.
No campaign finance reform is needed.
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//Ecology
The environment must be our first national priority.
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.
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//Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.
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//Free Trade
We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!
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//Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!
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//Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Homosexuals need to be treated for their condition.
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//Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!
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//Military Funding
Drastically cut military funding, establish a Department of Peace.
We should decrease military funding.
Keep military budget the same, look to be more efficient.
Increase the military budget, but find ways to be more efficient.
We need to significantly increase military funding to meet new threats.
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//Military Intervention
Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'.
For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked.
Only if we are attacked.
Only if our national interests are threatened.
We can and should use our military might to further our own interests.
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//Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.
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//Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.
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//Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.
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//Social Security
No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.
No to private investment, increase funding.
Keep social security as it is.
Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments.
Let workers privately invest all social security payments.
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//Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.
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Okay thats it I will also post my answer to the questions after this.

[TheWildCard]

Party:Rep.
First name:Michael R.
Last name:Larkin
Home State: California
Leadership-4
Charisma-5
Integrity-4
Stamina-4
Experience-2
Debating-3
Issue Knowledge-3

VP Name:Tom Ridge
VP Bonus:Experience
VP Home State:PA

Abortion:Center
AA:Center-Right
Balanced Buget:Center Right
Business Tax:Center-Right
Campiagn Finance Reform:Center-Right
Ecology:Center-Right
Education:Right
Free Trade:Center-Right
Gun Control:Center-Right
Same Sex Marriage:Center
Immigration:Center
Military Funding:Center Right
Military Intervention:Center Right
Personal Tax:Center Right
Public Health Care:Center
Renwable Energy:Center
Social Security: Center Right
Terrorism:Center-Right

[TheWildCard]

*bump* keep them coming... and we need more reps!

[TheWildCard]

party: democrat
title: former mayor
state: Maryland
name: kevin slattery
age: 35

VP: John Wrywas
VP attribute: issue knowledge
VP home state: georgia

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3
4
4
3
3
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abortion: CL
AA: CR
balanaced budget: CR
business tax:
CFR: CL
ecology: C
education: CL
free trade: CR
gun control: C
same sex marriage: CL
immigration: C
military funding: CL
military intervention: C
public health: CL
renewable energy: L
soc sec: C
terrorism: C

Okay so... You have no position on personbal tax or bussiness tax? If not I'll have to make you centerist on those issues.

[TheWildCard]

Republican
Josh
Craddock
North Carolina

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4
4
3
5
3


CR
R
C
C
L
CR
R
C
CR
CR
C
R
C
CR
C
C
CR
R

Josh you only have ponts for 6 attributes and no VP I determined since you didn't use all 25 points that you meant the rest to go into issue knowledge(all 2 of em) Your VP I've decided will help your weakest attribute which would be issue knowledge..

[TheWildCard]

And everyone keep signing up we'll find a way around there being more dem.s then reps or vice versa...

[TheWildCard]

Can you run some "preseason" matchups?

just to see who is the strongest candidate early on?

No I'm not planning to do that right now(I might howver change my mind) I will begin running candidates against the punching bag right now... As a matter of fact I just finished mine so that should keep some of us enertained for a bit..

[TheWildCard]

So I have to pick a V.P.?

Yes and what which attribute s/he helps you in(and what state this veep is from)... You also have to tell me if I added the 2 missing points to the correct missing attribute.

[TheWildCard]

MHS2002,

Don't worry man you got here with plenty of time

[TheWildCard]

Okay I'd like to announce deadline for player sign ups is noon pst tomorrow. This could get extended if we get a rush of people.

[TheWildCard]

*bump*

[TheWildCard]

*bump*

[TheWildCard]

okay theres only 3hrs. 16min. left to sign up....

[TheWildCard]

Okay registration for President Forever Champions is now closed

[TheWildCard]

Registration for President Forever Atlas Champions is now re-opened.

[TheWildCard]

Yes and anyone else who wants to make a change can go ahead... My VP shall also change(no name yet but the person will be from OH) I'm going to change my stance on an issue as well...

[TheWildCard]

what about part 2?

Because I had the older version of the game I decided its best if we start over so basically we will do the races against punching bag again soon.

[TheWildCard]

Okay I'm starting this back up we need two more Republicans if any new Democrats try to sign up I'm sorry but won't be possible to do unless we get 3 more republicans.

Another change will be that Punching bag will now have all his attributes set to 3 and will now ber reffered to as the "Generic Extream Opponent" mainly because with the new patch punching bag gets creamed by almost everyone in a near electoral sweep.

[TheWildCard]

Okay I'm starting this back up we need two more Republicans if any new Democrats try to sign up I'm sorry but won't be possible to do unless we get 3 more republicans.

Another change will be that Punching bag will now have all his attributes set to 3 and will now ber reffered to as the "Generic Extream Opponent" mainly because with the new patch punching bag gets creamed by almost everyone in a near electoral sweep.

Wildcard you still have my info right?

Yes I do and it's in this thread!

[TheWildCard]

Oh just 2 other notes first of all the reason this hasn't gotten done is I couldn't figure out how to re-load all the PF Characters I had made for everyone(they didn't appear on the list of candidates once I had ipdated the game) but I now I figured that out!

and the second note is I updated my issue stances and running mate.

[TheWildCard]

Hey, quick question, can I have my running-mate from Michigan instead?  And like Josh said, thank you very much for doing this.

Ummm.... I'm sorry I already ran your race(you should look!) but in the next round I can do that.

[TheWildCard]

Okay I'm starting this back up we need two more Republicans if any new Democrats try to sign up I'm sorry but won't be possible to do unless we get 3 more republicans.

Another change will be that Punching bag will now have all his attributes set to 3 and will now ber reffered to as the "Generic Extream Opponent" mainly because with the new patch punching bag gets creamed by almost everyone in a near electoral sweep.

*bump* if we don't get anymore republicans I'm going to have to cut the two lowest scoring dem.s out.

[TheWildCard]

Okay guys I am very sorry.... I said no more Democrats would be accepted... If we can get the right amount of republicans in here by monday I'll run all of you but it doesn't look good.