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Question: Which Democrat would have had the best chance to beat Bush in 2004?
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John Kerry
 
#2
John Edwards
 
#3
Dick Gephardt
 
#4
Howard Dean
 
#5
Wesley Clark
 
#6
Joe Lieberman
 
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2005, 09:53:01 PM »

Edwards was a terrible candidate and he added nothing to the Kerry campaign. I liked him, personally, but the Dems have to face facts that the South is a lost cause (no pun intended) in presidential races, as the Reps ought to do regarding the Northeast and Pacific Coast states. What matters is the Southwest and "rustbelt" Midwest. Both parties would be wise to pick candidates from these regions.
VP's just don't matter that much.  Historically, they rarely have.  Look at many national head-to-head polls.  Edwards performs very well, or at least significantly better than Kerry and Clinton.
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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2005, 10:44:41 PM »

I may have responded to to this post eariler, but as I see things now:
(1)  Dick Gephardt
(2)  John Edwards
(3)  Joe Lieberman
The rest would've stand zero (0.000000000) chance of winning the general election.
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2005, 11:40:13 PM »

The crazy thing is... The common consensus among Democrats in 2003-2004 was to go with Kerry because he was the best general election candidate.
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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2005, 03:08:10 PM »

The crazy thing is... The common consensus among Democrats in 2003-2004 was to go with Kerry because he was the best general election candidate.

I really don't understand that.  People think the Dem base won't be dumb enough to nominate Hillary in 2008?  They nominated a Mass. liberal on electability grounds last time around, I wouldn't put anything past them.
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2005, 01:37:53 AM »

Clark and Edwards
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2005, 01:51:23 AM »
« Edited: November 06, 2005, 01:53:43 AM by jfern »

Edwards was a terrible candidate and he added nothing to the Kerry campaign. I liked him, personally, but the Dems have to face facts that the South is a lost cause (no pun intended) in presidential races, as the Reps ought to do regarding the Northeast and Pacific Coast states. What matters is the Southwest and "rustbelt" Midwest. Both parties would be wise to pick candidates from these regions.

Edwards has very good favorability ratings.



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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2005, 08:41:04 AM »

Cindy Sheehan is more popular than Howard Dean?  lol
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2005, 01:05:41 PM »

The crazy thing is... The common consensus among Democrats in 2003-2004 was to go with Kerry because he was the best general election candidate.

I really don't understand that.  People think the Dem base won't be dumb enough to nominate Hillary in 2008?  They nominated a Mass. liberal on electability grounds last time around, I wouldn't put anything past them.

That's because Kerry was the "Stop Dean" candidate. There will probably be a "Stop Hillary" candidate in 2008 if she runs, except it won't be Kerry.

Cindy Sheehan is more popular than Howard Dean?  lol

That doesn't surprise me. Probably Democrats who are annoyed at Dean's gaffes. Plus it's well within the MoE.
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2005, 01:10:26 AM »

Kucinich definitely would've gotten at least 400 EVs
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2005, 01:12:05 AM »

The crazy thing is... The common consensus among Democrats in 2003-2004 was to go with Kerry because he was the best general election candidate.

I really don't understand that.  People think the Dem base won't be dumb enough to nominate Hillary in 2008?  They nominated a Mass. liberal on electability grounds last time around, I wouldn't put anything past them.

That's because Kerry was the "Stop Dean" candidate. There will probably be a "Stop Hillary" candidate in 2008 if she runs, except it won't be Kerry.

Cindy Sheehan is more popular than Howard Dean?  lol

That doesn't surprise me. Probably Democrats who are annoyed at Dean's gaffes. Plus it's well within the MoE.

MOE is smaller if you're comparing the approval rating of 2 Democrats.
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2005, 06:53:49 AM »

Just on the issue of Clark, this is a man with little or no charisma and certainly no political savvy, who answered questions put to him by the Manchester Union-Leader’s Joseph McQuaid on his position on abortion as follows… 

Clark: I don't think you should get the law involved in abortion--
McQuaid: At all?
Clark: Nope.
McQuaid: Late-term abortion? No limits?
Clark: Nope.
McQuaid: Anything up to delivery?
Clark: Nope, nope.
McQuaid: Anything up to the head coming out of the womb?
Clark: I say that it's up to the woman and her doctor, her conscience. . . . You don't put the law in there.

…not only a barmy position that even the most liberal members of congress would be unlikely to propose, even in their wildest fits of pique, but try and sell that to your average moderate, pragmatic or conservative Dem, let alone the broader electorate of moderate swing voters!

If ever there was a man not suited for politics it would seem to be Clark.

As I posted before though, I think Gephardt would have had his advantages, but overall I wonder if Kerry was probably the best that was on offer.   
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« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2005, 12:09:22 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2005, 12:16:02 PM »

Clark in my opinion.
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« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2005, 02:47:20 PM »


I have to agree.  I probably would have voted for him.
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« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2005, 04:07:53 PM »

John Kerry, although nobody would have beaten Bush.

Hahaha.  Did anyone actually like John Kerry?  And I disagree strongly that no one could have beaten Bush.  Kerry just did a horrible job.
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