Robertson : Disasters point to second coming?

[MissCatholic]

Try and read this seriously...

Robertson, a former GOP presidential candidate and host of the "700 Club" daily Christian TV show, noted, "If you read back in the Bible, the letter of the apostle Paul to the church of Thessalonia, he said that in the latter days before the end of the age that the Earth would be caught up in what he called the birth pangs of a new order. And for anybody who knows what it's like to have a wife going into labor, you know how these labor pains begin to hit. I don't have any special word that says this is that, but it could be suspiciously like that."

"What was called the blessed hope of the Bible is that one day Jesus Christ would come back again, start a whole new era, that this world order that we know would change into something that would be wonderful that we'd call the millennium," he continued. "And before that good time comes there will be some difficult days and there will be likened to what a woman goes through in labor just before she brings forth a child."

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[Filuwaúrdjan]

Robertson isn't a Christian; he's just a sick fraud

[A18]

What is wrong with this exactly?

[opebo]

All this stuff about christ and so forth is pure fantasy.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The Bible specifically says that the armageddon will come "like a thief in the night" and Jesus says "no one shall know the time except my Father in Heaven"

Therefore any attemps to guess it are unbiblical and a load of sh!t

[Max Power]

He's wrong, but I think that the end is coming for other reasons.

[TheresNoMoney]

No, he's just another Christofascist nut.

[WalterMitty]

the bible says not even the angels in heaven know when the end is coming.

[Speed of Sound]

Robertson isn't a Christian; he's just a sick fraud

Very true. Im ashamed to be from the same religion.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

the bible says not even the angels in heaven know when the end is coming.

Right.....I mean c'mon, who knows.  If the end is coming, I'm off to the islands with my golf clubs and portable bar right now.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

All this stuff about christ and so forth is pure fantasy.

Well, if it is such a "fantasy", why can't you simply ignore it?  Why are you consumed with it to the point of being compelled to respond each and every time it is mentioned?  (Heck, even you yourself are ignored 90% of the time on this forum.)

No, the evidence of your behavior suggests that the so-called "fantasy" is real and weighs very much on your conscience.

[Jake]

BRTD is correct. I tend not to follow the evangelical interpretation of Revelations anyway.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Try and read this seriously...

Ok, so what, exactly, are your objections?

Do you not believe the earth will undergo upheaval before the 2nd Coming?

Do you not believe certain events must precede the coming of Christ, even though those events do not mean we'll be able to pinpoint the day and hour of his return?

Do you not believe Christ will set up an earthly kingdom and rule the nations with an iron specter?

[Emsworth]

Robertson is entitled to his religious views, just like any other person. How exactly are we supposed to objectively analyze religion, a matter of faith, and conclude that any particular belief is more reasonable than any other? If Robertson believes that disasters point to the Second Coming, then so be it.

[??????????]

Unsure.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

The Bible specifically says that the armageddon will come "like a thief in the night" and Jesus says "no one shall know the time except my Father in Heaven"

Therefore any attemps to guess it are unbiblical and a load of sh!t

In fairness to Robertson, he is NOT trying (at least not from what I read) to set the time of the 2nd Coming, he is simply stating his opinion that the current events are what the bible refers to as "the birth pains".

As to whether or not that is "unbiblical"...Jesus himself told believers to watch for certain events as precursors to his coming:  "In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates...But of that day and hour no one knows." (Mat 24:33-36)

So, even though we won't know the day and hour, there will be signs that precede his coming...so it is NOT unbiblical to claim certain events must occur first.

The question regarding Robertson's opinion is whether or not the current events are part of the events Jesus was refering to.

[Bono]

The Bible specifically says that the armageddon will come "like a thief in the night" and Jesus says "no one shall know the time except my Father in Heaven"

Therefore any attemps to guess it are unbiblical and a load of sh!t

In fairness to Robertson, he is NOT trying (at least not from what I read) to set the time of the 2nd Coming, he is simply stating his opinion that the current events are what the bible refers to as "the birth pains".

As to whether or not that is "unbiblical"...Jesus himself told believers to watch for certain events as precursors to his coming:  "In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates...But of that day and hour no one knows." (Mat 24:33-36)

So, even though we won't know the day and hour, there will be signs that precede his coming...so it is NOT unbiblical to claim certain events must occur first.

The question regarding Robertson's opinion is whether or not the current events are part of the events Jesus was refering to.

What is your opinion?

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

What is your opinion?

I believe the "birth pains" will be data points which clearly stand out from the background noise of the average course of events...whether these events are part of the "birth pains"...hard to say not knowing the normal level of background noise.

But, the increase of sin over the last couple of generations is undoubtedly a sign we are nearing the end.

However, the event I am watching for is when the Jews rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem.  That will be a very unmistakable sign we are close to the end.

[MaC]

All this stuff about christ and so forth is pure fantasy.

Exaclty.  Everyone's looking for an end of the world.  Not in my lifetime it's not gonna happen.  It's just coincidence that lots of natural disasters happen on the same year.

[phk]

Religion was invented to predict the future.. and 100% of the time its wrong.

[Emsworth]

Religion was invented to predict the future.. and 100% of the time its wrong.

I would disagree. Religion was "invented" to reassure people that life has meaning. Whether it is actually right or wrong is hardly relevant; it does help some people cope with that which they cannot grasp or comprehend.

Which is why I have no problem with any beliefs that any person has (whatever they may be), as long as they don't seek to impose them on other people.

[phk]

Religion was invented to predict the future.. and 100% of the time its wrong.

I would disagree. Religion was "invented" to reassure people that life has meaning. Whether it is actually right or wrong is hardly relevant; it does help some people cope with that which they cannot grasp or comprehend.

Which is why I have no problem with any beliefs that any person has (whatever they may be), as long as they don't seek to impose them on other people.

I just see it as a tool to control people in modern-day society.

[Emsworth]

I just see it as a tool to control people in modern-day society.

Certainly, religion can be used as a tool to control people--like ideology.

I don't necessarily see why the private beliefs of other people should be the subject of intolerance or ridicule. Let each person believe whatever he may please. The atheist who ridicules all faiths is no better than a fundamentalist Christian who ridicules all other faiths but his own. I see little sense in dogmatically asserting that one's own belief system--be it Christianity, atheism, or anything else--is the correct system.

Of course, it is perfectly reasonable to argue that religion is not backed by evidence or proof, but it is not meant to be, so that hardly matters.

[J. J.]

I happen to believe that the Apocalypse has come, and gone.  There was a time of tribulation, well documented, led by a beast, Nero.  Opebo is the palest imitation of him, and the worst thing he's capable of is spreading chlamydia.

[Democratic Hawk]

Robertson isn't a Christian; he's just a sick fraud

Indeed

Dave