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Question: Religion should play a major role in how we make our laws?
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« on: October 12, 2005, 05:09:02 PM »

From the political matrix...

I say strongly disagree. Of course, most people who answer agree to this have in mind Christianity (usually conservative Christianity).
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 05:11:12 PM »

The basic principles shared by all mainstream religions should be an essential part of the rights and freedoms of democracies.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 05:12:22 PM »

Strongly disagree. No person has the right to use the government to proselytize, or to impose his religious views on society.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 05:16:17 PM »

It is the quality of the laws, not what they are based on, that matters.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2005, 05:22:15 PM »

It is the quality of the laws, not what they are based on, that matters.
Of course. But the question seems to refer to whether the government should enact "blue laws," school prayer, the placement of Ten Commandments monuments on courthouses, or even extreme measures such as prohibitions on blasphemy and the establishment of a religion.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 05:26:43 PM »

It is the quality of the laws, not what they are based on, that matters.

I agree.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2005, 05:47:03 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2005, 05:59:49 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2005, 06:02:59 PM by RED VT AVATAR »

I don't really care whether or not religion was involved in making a law; as long as it is a good law what difference does it make. Also note that there is a difference between religion affecting your opinion on an issue and relgion being the subject of a law. I firmly believe in upholding the separation between church and state but don't want to be unnecessarily crude about it. I don't see what harm putting a christmas tree in a school is causing - and yet it is controversial. And voluntary prayer isn't a bad thing either. However having group prayer each morning in school, so long as education is compulsory, I disagree with.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2005, 07:22:52 PM »

Strongly Disagree. This isnt a one religion country. So to rule it that way is rediculous beyond all belief.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2005, 07:43:13 PM »

This country isn't all-anything. Not all of us support a government, but we have one.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2005, 08:12:12 PM »

   Religion is becoming more and more a part of American government.  It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday.  In the America our founding fathers planned I should be able to go out one Sunday and buy a car and some alcohol to celebrate (not combining the two).
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2005, 08:14:05 PM »

It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday. 
How so?
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2005, 08:23:30 PM »

Unconstitutional=He doesn't support it
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2005, 11:01:43 PM »

If someone were a lawmaker, I hope one of the things they would consider when voting on a law would be "Is this right or wrong?". I'm sure many people's sense of right and wrong is related to their religion, but at the same time, consider the rights of everyone.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2005, 12:12:25 AM »

   Religion is becoming more and more a part of American government.  It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday.  In the America our founding fathers planned I should be able to go out one Sunday and buy a car and some alcohol to celebrate (not combining the two).

What constitution were you reading?
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2005, 05:10:33 AM »

It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday. 
How so?

To do so establishes a State bias or support of a particular religion, Emsworth.  Nothing could be more obvious.

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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2005, 05:20:16 AM »

It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday. 
How so?

To do so establishes a State bias or support of a particular religion, Emsworth.  Nothing could be more obvious.

Actually, no it doesn't, unless the law that forces businesses to close on Sunday states specifically that it is done so because some religions mandate a day of rest.  Of course, you are more concerned with nonexistant religious bias than the fact that such a law would force an employer to do something that the government should not force him to do... that is where the invasion of freedom lies.
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2005, 05:28:55 AM »

It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday. 
How so?

To do so establishes a State bias or support of a particular religion, Emsworth.  Nothing could be more obvious.

Actually, no it doesn't, unless the law that forces businesses to close on Sunday states specifically that it is done so because some religions mandate a day of rest.  Of course, you are more concerned with nonexistant religious bias than the fact that such a law would force an employer to do something that the government should not force him to do... that is where the invasion of freedom lies.

It doesn't matter whether it specifically states a religious reason, as the intention is obvious. 

I do agree that in a free society no set opening or closing hours should be mandated (I love 24 hour service) but I believe appropriate wage and overtime regulations should be made for the sake of the powerless workers in such establishments.
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2005, 05:45:40 AM »

You don't honestly think these places would keep people working for twenty-four hours straight do you?  If I worked under that sort of condition I'd just quit.

The intention is not obvious, either way, of a law that can be open to different interpretations.  For example, if it is not done for religious reasons, it could be done for worker's rights regulations, which you pointed out in an odd attempt to discredit yourself in the same post.
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2005, 06:33:46 AM »

It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday. 
How so?
To do so establishes a State bias or support of a particular religion, Emsworth.  Nothing could be more obvious.
Forcing businesses to close on any particular day does not respect the establishment of religion. There could be a completely secular reason for providing a day of rest.

Closing a business is not a religious activity, unlike school prayer, for example.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2005, 04:57:09 PM »

It is completely unconstitutional that businesses are forced to close on Sunday. 
How so?
It is unconstitutional because government is taking away peoples right to free commerce.  The only possible reason to end capitolism on Sundays is christianity.
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2005, 04:58:41 PM »

Unconstitutional=He doesn't support it
You are right because I stand for fighting against unconstitutional acts of government.
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2005, 05:40:57 PM »

It is unconstitutional because government is taking away peoples right to free commerce.
And where exactly does the Constitution guarantee this so-called right to free commerce?

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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2005, 05:44:07 PM »

Strongly Disagree
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2005, 08:53:21 PM »

It is unconstitutional because government is taking away peoples right to free commerce.
And where exactly does the Constitution guarantee this so-called right to free commerce?
It is stated in the ninth and tenth ammendments where it explains that even if not mentioned in the constitution, everything is a right unless ruled not to be by the states.
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